Eps 668: Your 2026 Back To School Reset

Joyful Courage today means letting go and trusting my loved ones are capable and will ask for help if they need it. Having the courage to let go of the belief they need to be micro-managed. They’ve got what it takes!

Resources:

• Back-to-School Checklist, rebuilt around the four layers, 12 items across 8 pages: bit.ly/teenchecklist  
• Immersion Week, five days live online, September 21–25, 2026. Details coming in the next couple weeks.
• Living Joyful Courage Inner Circle, the year-long membership
• Facebook group: Joyful Courage for Parents of Teens
• Email Casey directly: [email protected]
• Newsletter and offerings for all ages: besproutable.com
• Alfred Adler and Positive Discipline, specifically private logic, belonging and significance, and social interest
• Sexy and Regulated Mama Summit, where the ecosystem graphic first showed up on the handouts
• The 10-minute practice: what is the culture of my home right now, and which layer have I been living in?

Transcription

[00:00:00] Casey O'Roarty: Welcome, welcome. Welcome to the Joyful Courage Podcast. This is a place where parents of tweens and teens come to find inspiration, information, and encouragement in the messy terrain of adolescence. This season of parenting is no joke, and while the details of what we're all moving through might be slightly different, we are indeed having a very collective experience.
[00:00:30] This is a space where we center building relationship, nurturing life skills, and leaning into our own personal growth, and man, the opportunities abound, right? My name is Casey O'Werty. I am a parent coach, positive discipline lead trainer, and captain of the adolescent ship over at Sproutable. I'm also a speaker and a published author.
[00:00:53] I've been working with parents and families for over 20 years and continue to navigate my own experience of being a mom with my two young adult kids. I'm so honored that you're here and listening. Please give back to the podcast by sharing it with friends or on social media. Rate and review us on Apple or Spotify.
[00:01:13] Word of mouth is how we grow. Thank you so, so much. Enjoy the show
[00:01:23] All right. Hey, friends. Solo show today, just you and me. I'm
[00:01:29] back after a couple weeks of a break, and I'm really excited. We are in a transition season, right? I've been waiting to record this show. I've been carrying it around for a couple weeks, thinking about it on walks, bringing it up with clients, writing about it in my journal. So yes, I am so glad that you're here and that you're listening, 'cause I'm really fired up.
[00:01:57] So let's start with where we are on the calendar, right? It's August. It's August. Some of your kids are back to school. Some of your kids have a couple more weeks or three weeks or a month. Wherever you land, you know exactly what the season is, right? It's supply lists. It's knowing that the schedule's about to kick into gear, and perhaps there's a particular flavor of relief For the routine and maybe some dread around the busyness.
[00:02:35] You know, that happens at the end of the summer, and honestly, we don't really talk about the relief part enough. I remember, you know, when we got towards the end of summer and I knew school was coming, I was like, "Oh, my God. Thank God. I need routine. I love routine. I love my kids getting in their cars, getting on the school bus, and going somewhere.
[00:02:58] I love them, and being ready for them to go somewhere for a few hours a day." Those two things can coexist, yeah. And here's what I wanna name about this moment, this season, this transition. A new school year is one of the only clean slates that we get, and I mean that. Like, think about how few of them that there are.
[00:03:21] Okay, there's New Year's Day, and while I do like to embrace New Year's as a clean slate and a clean start and a reset, nothing actually changes on January 1st except the number, right? Birthdays are a little bit of a reset, but the start of the school year is a genuine reset. Everybody walks into a new grade, a new classroom.
[00:03:46] Everybody's meeting with new teachers, new schedules, new expectations that haven't been shaped yet by anybody's history. Your kiddo gets to be someone slightly different this year, and so do you. Now, this transition window doesn't stay open long. Maybe it's two or three weeks in, patterns start to set.
[00:04:08] You know what I'm talking about, right? Patterns start to set. By October, the way this year is going is mostly decided, and you're not in design mode anymore. You're managing. You're managing what got set up by default while everyone was busy and you entered into this new season. So the question I want you to sit with today is what are you gonna do with this window of opportunity, right?
[00:04:36] Now, if you've been listening the last couple months, or if you participated in the June immersion week, or if you're in my membership, you've heard me talk about the intentional ecosystem. I am obsessed with this concept. It's, like, launching me into this way clearer, both more expanded yet more focused way of being with this experience of parenting, right?
[00:05:05] And I've brought it up here on the podcast. I built it, like I said, into my group work. I've been talking about it with clients. Anybody who came to the Sexy and Regulated Mama Summit a few weeks back saw the graphic. It's on the handouts. It's on my whiteboard. My husband is kinda sick of hearing about it, if I'm being honest.
[00:05:25] But I'm so excited, and I wanna tell you why I keep coming back to it, because it's not, oh, I need to invent a new framework. There are so many parenting frameworks out there. The world doesn't need another one from me. The reason that I keep coming back to it, and I'm so excited about it, is because in almost 20 years of doing this work with families, it's the clearest answer that I've found to a question and some pushback that I get more than any other question or pushback, and it's the question
[00:05:58] Well, it's some version of this question: I know what I'm supposed to do, so why isn't it working, right? Why isn't it working? You've been there, I know. You've listened to the podcast. You've read plenty of books, I'm sure. You know about validating before you problem solve. You know that curiosity opens a kid up, and lecturing shuts them down.
[00:06:19] You know this. You could teach it. And then there you are standing in the kitchen on some random night, and your teen says something that lands a little sideways or pokes at you, and every single one of those tools that you've heard about, read about, all of those tools disappear, and you hear yourself saying the exact thing you swore that you'd never say.
[00:06:43] So for a long time, I thought, well, the answer to that is more tools, better tools, different tools, a better phrase, a better script, and that's not it. This intentional ecosystem model is my attempt to talk about why tools and practices that you are reading and hearing about Aren't landing, right? So I want you to imagine, right, picture in your mind four ovals nested inside of each other, right?
[00:07:17] Like a target or a cross-section of a tree or those, like, Russian nesting dolls, okay? The center one, the one in the middle, the smallest, this is what most of us come looking for, right? That little space, those are the in-the-moment tools. What do we do when, right? What do we do when this happens? This is where communication skills live and problem-solving, and what I actually say when my child is melting down about a grade or stonewalling me because I won't let them go to a party.
[00:07:47] What do I do, right? That's the center. Around that, the next layer around that is our systems and routines, right? Established and co-created. Like, what does bedtime look like? What does screen time look like, or screen agreements I should say. Who's driving who where? What happens with homework? What, you know, text me when you're leaving actually means in practice.
[00:08:10] Systems and routines exist in that next layer out, right? You with me? And then around that is the quality of the relationship between you and your child, right? The connection, how full the tank is, what one-on-one time looks like. And then the outermost layer is, that's holding all of this, is your own personal growth and development as the parent.
[00:08:39] Your regulation, your mindset, your explicit lived values, your beliefs, right? Your conditioning. And here's the whole idea. I want you to really hear this part. Every layer grows in the conditions created by the layers outside of it. That's why it's an ecosystem and not a checklist. It's an actual ecosystem.
[00:09:03] You can't plant a thing in bad soil and get frustrated when the plant isn't growing. You know, the plant is doing what the conditions around it allows for. If you want a different experience with that plant, you have to tend to the conditions that you've put it inside of, right? Same is true when we're talking about our teens.
[00:09:28] So when that perfect, you know, phrase, script evaporates in that moment in the kitchen, it isn't because you don't know what to say, it's because the phrase is sitting in the innermost layer, and those three other layers weren't tended to, right? You're depleted, you're reactive. The relationship is frayed, and there hasn't been connection, or perhaps there, you know, you haven't really co-created any agreements or routines around whatever it is that the kiddo's asking you about, right?
[00:10:01] So the conversation was a negotiation happening from scratch at the worst possible hour of the day. So the tool itself Isn't failing, it's the conditions around it that are influencing how it's landing. Does that make sense? So we're gonna go through all of these layers today on the podcast. That's what we're doing, and I'm really excited, and you're gonna hear me talk about this a lot.
[00:10:29] You're gonna hear me talk about programs that I've got that are going to be centered around this concept. I've got an opt-in freebie for you. I've got things, okay? But let's dig into this a little bit more, and we're gonna start with that outermost layer. Outermost layer, which is you. We're going from the outside in, right?
[00:10:48] Because that's how we need to be working when we're talking about parenting. We have to start from the outside in when we're playing around with this ecosystem. So the outermost layer is you, your personal growth and development, your regulation, your mindset, again, those explicitly lived values, right?
[00:11:07] Those beliefs that you're carrying with you. And Alfred Adler, who we know is the basis of the work of positive discipline, Alfred Adler would say that we're all operating out of private logic, right? The set of conclusions that we drew about ourselves and about how the world works, mostly before we were even 10 years old, mostly without anybody helping us examine them.
[00:11:31] And the private logic that each of us has is running the show whether or not we know that it exists, right? Some people might call private logic our conditioning, right? Maybe it's our limited beliefs. So when your child brings home a grade that you weren't expecting, what happens in your body happens fast, and it's not really about the grade.
[00:11:54] It's about what you decided a long time ago about achievement and worth, about what you learned in your own household growing up, about what happens when you disappoint someone, right? Maybe there's a story you carry that says a good parent produces a certain kind of kid, and so your child's transcript or grades is actually a report card on you, right?
[00:12:19] That's the layer. It's not managing your anger. It's looking at what's underneath the reaction so that you get closer to stopping that reaction from running your show, right? And the explicit lived values piece matters so much. Explicit means you've said them out loud. Lived means your family could describe them by watching you, not by hearing you, but by watching you.
[00:12:47] Most of us have values we could recite and a daily life and actions that actually quietly contradict those values
[00:13:07] You say that you value rest, and your kiddo has never once seen you rest. You say you value honesty, and they watch you get out of something with a convenient half-truth. You say you value your kiddo's voice and contribution, yet you're doing all the decision-making and not allowing things to shift or pivot or change based on what your teen has to say about it.
[00:13:32] Kids are extraordinary anthropologists, right? They're watching, they're studying. They're not listening to your values, they're documenting the ways that you are or aren't living them. Right? And this is a layer that people wanna skip, and it makes sense. If it's the least tangible and the slowest and it doesn't feel like it's helping with the actual problem in front of you, why bother?
[00:14:00] Right? Not to mention that it can get really slippery when we start to turn our focus inward. Many of us don't do that because we're protecting ourselves from what we might see there. We don't wanna acknowledge that we are actually influencing the challenges that we might be having, okay? No, thanks. I don't want to acknowledge that.
[00:14:24] No, not into it. However, it's super, super important. Right? And again, it is, whether you're examining how you're influencing the dynamic or not, you still are doing it, right? You are influencing the ecosystem. So the next layer in is the quality of the relationship between you and your teen, okay? The quality of the relationship.
[00:14:48] Connecting. Are we connecting before we correcting? I know you've heard me say it 1,000 times here and I'm gonna keep saying. And here's the Adlerian/positive discipline bone underneath it. Every human being is moving towards a sense and a perception of belonging and significance. Everyone. Your teen when they slam the door, when they go silent, when they say things designed to wound you up, they are pursuing a sense of belonging and significance, of connecting and mattering with the tools that they have and the beliefs that they are holding in the moment about how to get it.
[00:15:28] The behavior is a strategy, and it's usually not a great strategy, but it's still a strategy and it's still aiming towards feeling connected and knowing that they matter. Belonging and significance. Which means when connection is thin, you don't just have a sad relationship. You have a kiddo who's going to go find belonging and significance somewhere because that need doesn't go dormant because it's not being met.
[00:15:58] It gets met somewhere else by someone else on terms that maybe you have no input on Right? That's the stakes. That's why this layer isn't soft Right? It's not soft to center relationship when we're talking about parenting teens. And practically, for what we're talking about today, a kiddo who feels close to you will let you into a hard conversation.
[00:16:24] A kiddo who doesn't, won't. Doesn't matter how well you enter into it, how curious you are, if there's nothing in that tank of connection, your beautifully worded question about their goals for the school year lands as an interrogation, it lands as a trap, because they can feel the agenda underneath it. So before you bring up school, put something in the tank.
[00:16:48] Put something in that shared relationship that doesn't have to do with school. Go on a drive, have a meal, watch a show together where you both pretend that the other person likes it more. 15 minutes of your genuine, no phone, no technology, wide-eyed, fully present connection and attention. What you're depositing now is what you're gonna get to draw on a few months from now when things feel shaky, right?
[00:17:21] What you're building now in this ecosystem is what's gonna hold you all through, you know, the challenges that are gonna come and go and ebb and flow in the coming months, right? Then the third layer, right? We're going in one more layer. The third layer is the systems and routines, right? Systems and routines, established, co-created, collaborated on, right?
[00:17:46] This is huge. Parents are always like, "What are the rules that I should be creating?" You know, "We have no rules." The weight is not all on you to make the rules. Actually, if you want rules and expectations to be more likely to be followed, you co-create. Doesn't mean you don't have non-negotiables, but you look for opportunities to co-create some of these expectations, right?
[00:18:13] And again, this is where I watch families come undone in the fall, and I have my own experience of that. Ian was in elementary school, but yeah, I came in hot with, "This is how it's gonna be after school. This is what it's gonna look like." And you know, it was, he was probably nine or 10, and that was the worst start of the school year and I thought, "Oh, God, am I entering into early adolescence and I'm losing my boy?
[00:18:38] Is that what's happening?" We were just like angsty and angry. And actually now that I think about it, it happened also when he was in high school. And I paused and I took a step back and I remember asking him, or just acknowledging like, "Wow, it, it's really hard between us right now." And Ian saying, "Yeah," like, "Lay off."
[00:19:02] You know, "You're really controlling. You're spending a lot of time telling me what to do." And that's when I got to just scrap- All of these expectations I was holding and say, "Okay, you know what? First of all, you're right, and I'm sorry. You're right, and I'm sorry about that, and can we have a redo? Can we do this together?
[00:19:19] Can we look at the afternoon and decide together what makes the most sense?" Right? Anything you decide on your own is a rule. And again, a rule is something you will spend the year enforcing. Anything you decide together is an agreement, and agreements are something we get to return to, we get to assess, we get to look at, we get to tweak.
[00:19:43] And here's the difference in those two conversations, right? The rule version sounds like, "Screens go off at 10:00." Now you're the screen police for nine months, right? Which we all are screen police. Like, this example is so annoying. But every night, you get that knot in your stomach. You kind of get tension in your shoulders.
[00:20:02] You get into that energetic fighter stance, and it's like, "All right, I'm taking those screens." And every night, your teen gets to test whether you mean it because they had no hand in it, and they have no investment in it, right? The agreement version is you and your child sitting down in August talking about sleep and what they notice about themselves when they're tired and how much they think they need and putting in a number you both agree on.
[00:20:27] Now, when it's 10:15, you're not the enforcer. You're the person saying, "Hey, what did we agree to?" Listen, I mean, let's keep it real. They might still push. They probably will. They're a teenager. They'll push. But you are standing on something you built together instead of something you imposed, right? That's
[00:20:44] Al- Adler calls this social interest, and this is it in practice. They feel that sense of we. This is our home, and I have a hand in how it runs, and my voice counts here. A kiddo who experiences that in their family carries it into every room they walk into for the rest of their life. And this is a piece where that outer layer of values, right, I value your contribution, I value your voice, gets to really be put into practice, right?
[00:21:14] Structure exists to support the growing, right? When we're thinking about it in, in the garden metaphor, it's a trellis, right? A trellis gives a plant something to climb. A cage Keeps it small and tells you nothing about what that plant could have become. So we don't wanna... You know, rules are more like cages, agreements are more like a trellis.
[00:21:34] And then finally, there's this center piece, right? The tools, the center, the in-the-moment tools, communication, problem-solving, encouragement. These are real, and they're helpful, and I teach them constantly. I talk about them here, validation before you fix things. Curiosity over interrogation. What and how questions instead of why, because, "Why did you do that?"
[00:21:58] has never once in human history gotten an honest answer from an adolescent. We get to be kind and firm at the same time. We get to say, "I love you so much, and I see that this is important to you, and the answer is no, not yet." Right? I'm not diminishing this layer as important, but we're gonna locate it, right?
[00:22:17] Because when the outer three layers, that personal growth, relationships, systems and routines, when those three layers are tended to, these in-the-moment tools are useful. They do what they're supposed to do. They're more likely to do what they're supposed to do. You're regulated enough to keep that toolbox available.
[00:22:39] There's enough connection that your teen can receive it, right? There's an agreement in place, so you're not negotiating from zero in those hard moments. And when those outer three layers are not tended to, the exact same words come out of your mouth and go absolutely nowhere, right? So it's not about the script, it's about the ecosystem that the script lives inside of.
[00:23:05] And, you know, here's the part that I actually want most to say today, and it's kind of uncomfortable, right? Everything that I just described, you now understand, right? If you're driving and only half listening, I'm sure you still got it. It's not that complicated, right? That's what I love about it, right?
[00:23:22] This ecosystem model, and understanding it will not change your household. I want you to sit with that for a second, because I think we do each other a big disservice when we pretend that understanding creates change. Right? You're gonna finish this episode, and my guess is you're gonna feel something, maybe some clarity, maybe some motivation, maybe that good feeling of like, "Yes, okay, this makes sense to me.
[00:23:53] She's speaking my language." I love that feeling. I chase that feeling.
[00:24:06] I have watched that feeling be completely gone a few days later more times than I can count, in my clients, in the workshops, in myself a lot, because insight and integration are two different animals. Insight happens in a moment. Integration happens in 100 unremarkable moments where nobody's watching and nothing feels meaningful, and you're tired And it would be so much easier to do the thing that you've always done because it's familiar.
[00:24:40] Integration is what happens 10 days later when the novelty has worn off, and the new way, the invited way, feels awkward. And the old way, sitting right there, warm and available, and not really requiring much work from you, 'cause you know what to do. So wanting to parent differently is not the same as parenting differently, which I know you know.
[00:25:08] And the gap between those two things, between wanting to do it different and doing it different, it's not about willpower. I wanna be really clear about that, because I know some of you are already going somewhere unkind with this, right? Coming down on yourself. It's not a discipline problem or a caring enough problem.
[00:25:27] You care so much. That's why you're listening to a parenting podcast in August, right? It's about structure and culture. So let's talk a little bit about culture because this is what I think the ecosystem is actually describing. Your family has a culture, right? Your family culture exists right now. Nobody sat down and wrote it, but it is absolutely there, and everyone in your household knows the rules of it even though nobody's ever said them out loud.
[00:25:55] How conflict goes, whether feelings get expressed or managed, what happens when somebody messes up, whether repair is a thing we do or a thing that we skip, right? The culture wasn't designed. It's accumulated over time out of your private logic, your partner's private logic, how you were both raised, and out of a decade and a half of defaulting under pressure.
[00:26:18] And the whole time, your kids are watching and learning how to be inside of this culture, to exist, to get what they want, to find belonging, to find mattering, right? And here's the thing about culture: it doesn't change because one person learns something. It changes when new behavior is repeated long enough and consistently enough that it becomes the new default.
[00:26:42] And it takes time. It takes repetition through the part that feels fake and forced and wobbly, right? Which is exactly where most people quit. Not at the beginning. They're super inspired at the beginning. But in the middle, where there's not quite the evidence that what you're doing is making a difference, and that old way of showing up is just right there, right?
[00:27:05] This is why I have stopped believing that it's an information bottleneck. You have the information. You've had it, right? What most of us don't have is anyone who notices, you know, beyond us when we drift, because you will drift. I drift, right? I've been teaching this material for two decades, and I still catch myself, you know, in a hard stretch of relationship realizing that I've been operating exclusively out of that innermost layer, right?
[00:27:38] Reactive. Throwing tools at a situation when my own regulation is in the toilet, and I haven't had a real conversation with someone I love in days and I catch it because I have so many different tools of reflection and self-awareness, and I have my own coaches and my own peers and people around me who gently and kindly and lovingly point out when I've drifted away from, you know, who I wanna be, what I wanna create.
[00:28:08] A community where I have said out loud what I'm working on, which means someone can ask me about it, right? That's not a weakness, it's a system. That's the system. Humans change in relationship, right? We always have. The idea that you should be able to fundamentally rewire how you show up in your closest relationships alone in your own head, in the gaps between everything else you're responsible for, is a genuinely strange idea.
[00:28:35] And I don't know why we all accepted it to begin with. Accountability doesn't mean someone's scolding you. It means somebody knows what you said you were going to do, right? And that's it. That's the whole mechanism. It's remarkably different how you move through a week when one other person knows what it is that you're practicing, right?
[00:28:56] And reminding you and bringing you back to that. Which brings me to something that I'm super excited about. In September, I'm doing another immersion week. So five days live online, a deep dive into the ecosystem, into all the layers, in community with other parents that are doing the same work at the same time.
[00:29:16] We will also hold it as a flavor of back to school, right? I did this back in June, and kind of the overarching, here we are moving into the summer. I did it back in December and it was like, where, how can we pivot? I'm doing it again in September, right? We're gonna look at the ecosystem through the lens of, here we have a chance to reset.
[00:29:38] I'm not gonna give you all the details today 'cause I'm still building it, and I want it to be dialed in. But I wanted you to hear it. Like, I want you to have it on your radar as you're looking at your September, and I'm looking at the m- week of September 21st through the 25th. We're gonna do five days.
[00:29:54] It's also an awesome way to dip your toe into what it feels like to be in the year-long membership program. So I'm excited about that. What I'll say about the shape of it is it's built exactly for this problem, this situation that I've been describing during this whole episode. It's not more information.
[00:30:12] It's time inside of this ecosystem with people, with structure, with someone who knows what you said you were gonna work on. Details will come at you in the next couple weeks, so stay close to the podcast and the newsletter and you'll be the first to know. Now, I've got something for you. If you're on my email list, you already got it.
[00:30:32] If you're not, listen up. So September is a few weeks out, and school is not. School is right around the corner, so I'm gonna give you something for right now. I completely rebuilt my back-to-school checklist this year. Every year I've been putting it out at the start of the school year, and I've tweaked it.
[00:30:50] The old version was good, but I rebuilt it around the ecosystem. So the old version, yes, a list of solid things to do before the school year starts. The new one walks through the four layers from the outside in, and it starts with you before you say a single word to your kiddo. Then it focuses on relationship, has you look at systems and routines, and then finally, that language for moments that get hard.
[00:31:15] There's 12 different things on across eight pages with space to write on every one of them because I want you marking it up. I don't want you to just like, "Oh, that's cool, put it in my downloads folder." I want you to get it and print it and use it. Where do you get it? Go to bit.ly/teenchecklist. It's all one word, and it's all lowercase.
[00:31:37] So that is B-I-T.L-Y/T-E-E-N C-H-E-C-K L-I-S-T, bit.ly/teenchecklist. And
[00:31:50] then it'll be in your inbox in about a minute, and that link is in the show notes too. So here's what I want you to do with it. Like I said, I want you to print it out. Don't leave it in your downloads folder, right, with all the other random free stuff that
[00:32:03] you
[00:32:03] download. Put it somewhere you'll see it, work one layer at a time, and then pull it back out in October when everybody's tired and the shine has worn off and see what's held and what needs another pass.
[00:32:15] Okay? But before I let you go, I wanna offer you up one practice. I'm not gonna give you all 12 items on the checklist. I wanna give you one thing this week. I want you to sit down somewhere quiet, give yourself 10 minutes, set a timer, put your phone away from you, and answer this question What is the culture of my home right now today?
[00:32:36] Not what you want it to be, what is it? Write down how conflict actually goes in your house. What actually happens when somebody messes up? Whether repair is something you do or something you skip. And then one more question, which layer of the intentional ecosystem have I been living in? Be honest. Most of us can name it fast.
[00:32:56] Most of us are living in that innermost layer, hunting for the right perfect tools and words while the other three layers go unattended, right? Wherever you land, it's not a failure, it's information. And you can't tend to a layer if you haven't noticed that you're standing outside of it. So if what comes up is that the outermost layer, the one that's yours, has been neglected while you pour everything into everybody else, then friend, you're welcome.
[00:33:24] Because that's most of us, right? And it's the beginning. So what's the culture in your home right now, and which layer have you been living inside of? That's what I want you to really sit with. Your family already has an ecosystem. You're not deciding whether to have one, you do. Every household does. The question is whether it's one you have chosen and intentionally tended to, or is it one that has just been accumulated while you were busy?
[00:33:51] You got a couple weeks here. The window's open, it doesn't stay that way. This reset window is ready for you, right? Start with you. Fill the tank of relationship. Make agreements instead of rules, and let the tools do what the tools do in, in a soil, right, in a space that can actually hold them. So grat- again, go get your checklist at bit.ly/teenchecklist.
[00:34:20] Keep an eye out for immersion week in September. I'm super excited, and come tell me what you're working on in the Facebook group, Joyful Courage for Parents of Teens, or you can email me at [email protected]. Because saying it out loud to another human is the entire mechanism I just spent all this last thirty-five minutes explaining and describing.
[00:34:43] I believe in you. I believe in you. I believe in your child. Sending you all the love with joyful courage, and I'll see you next time.
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