Eps 621: Revisiting Consciously practicing connection, curiosity, and presence with ourselves and others
Episode 621
I’m diving deep into the messy, beautiful work of parenting teens with intention and compassion. In this replay episode, I explore why changing our parenting patterns feels so hard (hint: it’s like forging a new path through the forest), how to practice non-attachment while staying fiercely committed, and the power of pausing to check in with ourselves throughout the day. I share real talk about trusting your gut, honoring your family’s unique journey, and remembering that whatever challenge you’re facing right now is just one snapshot in the bigger picture. Perfect for parents seeking connection over control.
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Takeaways from the show
- New parenting approaches feel awkward but practice makes them easier
- Telling your teen you’re figuring it out too strengthens connection
- Trust your parental instinct over opinions from people who don’t know your story
- Pause throughout your day to notice what you’re feeling and thinking
- Love your teen unconditionally while releasing attachment to their choices
- Parenting isn’t black and white so embrace the gray areas
- Today’s struggle is one snapshot so focus on long term relationship
- Even noticing you missed an opportunity means you’re building awareness
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[00:00:00] Casey O'Roarty: Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Joyful Courage Podcast. This is a place where parents of tweens and teens come to find inspiration, information, and encouragement. In the messy terrain of adolescents, this season of parenting is no joke. And while the details of what we're all moving through might be slightly different, we are indeed having a very collective experience.
[00:00:30] This is a space where we center building, relationship, nurturing life skills, and leaning into our own personal growth and man. The opportunities abound, right. My name is Casey Ody. I am a parent coach, positive discipline lead trainer, and captain of the adolescent ship over at Sprout Bowl. I'm also a speaker and a published author.
[00:00:53] I've been working with parents and families for over 20 years. And continue to navigate my own experience of being a mom with my two young adult kids. I'm so honored that you're here and listening. Please give back to the podcast by sharing it with friends or on social media rate and review us on Apple or Spotify.
[00:01:13] Word of mouth is how we grow. Thank you so, so much. Enjoy the show. Hi. So I just wanted to jump in and point out that this is a replay of episode 4 66 from February, 2024, which when I think about that, it seems like, oh yeah, it was just February, 2024, but actually in a few short months, it'll be February, 2026.
[00:01:40] So it's been a couple years and man has a lot gone down since then. Ian was still in high school. He was finishing up senior year. Rowan was on her own. But yeah, things were different. Anyway, I re-listened to it just now on a walk with my dog and it holds up and I think it's super useful and I am really excited for you to listen.
[00:02:05] So the title, consciously Practicing Connection, curiosity, and Presence with ourselves and others, I think really captures. The spirit of this episode, it's a lot of conversation around awareness and intention and non-attachment. I reference the Art of Connected Parenting podcast series, which I did with my two co-founders at Sprout.
[00:02:33] I'll put a, make sure the link in the show notes for that podcast series if you wanna check that out. Um, I bring up one of my favorite metaphors, analogies, which is when I talk about walking the forest path that's really well laid and, and then choosing a different path in the forest that hasn't been walked before and how tricky it can be.
[00:02:54] And I connect the dots around that when we're trying to do something different and be something different as parents. So, yeah, choosing a different path, maybe a different path than you were parented. Maybe a different path than your. Local kind of community vibe around parenting a different path. We can do that.
[00:03:14] We need to do that because the path right now, what's going on right now out in the world is crazy pants. So let's be kind. Let's be gentle, let's be compassionate, let's be thoughtful, let's be curious. Let's listen to each other. That's really. What this show is about and why I want to replay it. And the other thing is, starting next week, starting next week, November, you're gonna hear me talking a lot about a new program that I'm launching called The Living Joyful Courage Coaching Week.
[00:03:48] And it is going to be gangbusters. You guys, I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm just teasing you right now. I'm gonna talk about it more on Monday. I've got tons of bonuses for enrollment. It's very low cost of entry, and it is very high value. Community coaching. Really useful workshop content. So the first week of December, get ready to hear about it.
[00:04:10] I'm gonna completely bombard you. I'm gonna bombard you here on the pod. Via email, via social media, all of my places. So you're gonna hear about coaching week from all different directions. Just do yourself a favor. As soon as you hear about it the first time, sign up. Just be done with it. Sign up, be ready.
[00:04:27] Get all the bonuses, you'll appreciate it. Anyway, that's it. Enjoy this week. Solo show. And be ready to jot down a bunch of takeaways. All right. Big love.
[00:04:43] Alright. Hey. Hi. Welcome. Welcome to a solo podcast episode here, joyful Courage, parents of Teens. So glad that you are tuning in. Is it your first time? Have you listened before? I hope it's your first time. Welcome, if it is, I am Casey. I'm the host here. I'm the space holder. You heard all about me in the intro, so I won't get into that.
[00:05:11] But you know, my goal is always to grow, grow, grow the reach of the show because from what I hear, it's really useful for parents of teens to listen in and as I've said, and I'm gonna continue to say. I really need your help to spread the word about the pod. I am so grateful to those of you that, you know, took my.
[00:05:38] Request and went into action. So there's a couple of lovely reviews on Apple Podcasts that I just wanna share. One says, do you have a challenging teen and all your parenting tactics aren't working? Casey is here to save your day and teach you a different approach. I've been listening to Casey for two years now, and I've joined her membership this year, so supportive.
[00:06:04] My relationship with my team has completely changed, and we've developed a closeness that I never thought possible since I started the positive discipline technique. I totally recommend this podcast. Five stars. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. Another review came in that simply says, thanks. Casey is a lifesaver.
[00:06:23] If you have a teen, also heard. I love this one. This is from last week healing me and my daughter's relationship. Every time I listen to an episode of Joyful Courage Podcast, I feel like I grow a deeper understanding of myself and my child. As a woman of color, this series still resonates with me and the intention I have with my parenting style.
[00:06:44] I'm so grateful I came across this podcast. I will always look to it for guidance on my parenting journey. Oh my gosh, that makes me feel so good. And finally, I heard Key Sees podcasts have given me a framework to parent my teens. That really resonates with me. My relationship with my teen has improved immensely because of her encouragement and expertise.
[00:07:06] You guys, oh my gosh. The fact that I get to read those reviews, that they come from real people, listeners like you, it means everything to me to know that this is helpful. There's a lot of podcasts out there. There's a lot of people talking about parenting a lot as you know, and the idea that all of you are tuning in here and finding value here.
[00:07:37] It's everything. So thank you to those of you that left reviews. And if you're sitting there like, oh, right, I was gonna do that thing for Casey, do that thing. And really, it's not for me, it's for the whole world, right? Because the more reviews that show up for the show in Apple Podcasts, the more likely it is.
[00:07:56] That it gets shown to evermore parents that don't know about it, right? Like that's when we talk about, when you hear people like me talking about growing my reach or growing my platform, it's really how can I get evermore people? Tuned in so that they can also be practicing these tools and being in their own personal growth and shifting their relationship with their kiddos.
[00:08:20] 'cause their shift in relationship with kiddos shifts how their kiddos show up in the world, in the classroom, in, you know, at their jobs on the sports teams. Like it's this ripple effect. It's for all of us. It's not just for me, my family, you, your family. It is truly for the world. When we raise a generation of kids who grow up feeling a healthy sense of belonging and significance, meaning connection and personal responsibility, we are contributing to the health and wellbeing of the planet, right?
[00:08:53] And right now, the planet, it needs that support. God damn it is crazy out there and it matters. It matters what we do. It matters how we show up for our kids. It matters how we show up for all kids, right? Just because you don't belong to a certain marginalized community, or your child doesn't express, you know, in certain ways, all kids need our love and support.
[00:09:22] All kids need us to be thoughtful in how we're raising our own kids and how we're showing up for the All right? Yes. Great. Okay. Today. Today I wanna talk a little bit about Monday's show. I wanna talk about, I'm kind of off the cuff today. Okay. I'm just gonna be honest. I've got a plane to catch in a few hours.
[00:09:44] I wanted to get this recording in. There's some things that have shown up with clients and in the Facebook group that I wanna talk about. So yeah, if it gets a little rambly, you know why, but some of my best shows are the ones where I haven't scripted the whole thing out. So. We're just gonna hold that.
[00:10:00] This is gonna be one of those shows. All right. Who's with me? So Monday Art of Connected Parenting. Are you enjoying that? I mean, I know that it's not specifically designed for parents of teens, but we're really working on making sure that those conversations are expansive enough to include everyone. And I think really we're talking about personal growth.
[00:10:22] And interpersonal relationship, and it doesn't really matter how old your kids are or which relationship you're even referring to. I think at one point we were talking about being intentional on Monday, and you might have caught me saying something like, Hmm, this reminds me of marriage counseling. And you hear me say that a lot on this podcast because.
[00:10:45] Really what we're centering is like how we relate to each other, whether it's our kids or our partner, or our boss or our friends. This is all about the tools and strategies and way of being to relate in a way that really allows us to clear, to be seen, to be heard, and also to be received by the other person.
[00:11:11] And to be received by the other person, they also have to feel seen and heard, right and understood space for listening, all those things. So yeah, Monday was all about being intentional and really like what is our why with what we say and what we do with our kids. And I think that is such a big opportunity to start to recognize the places where, you know, we're spending our time in.
[00:11:39] Shooting from the hip in reaction mode, right. I've been talking a lot about this. I have a couple of families that are new to my membership and are new to positive discipline. And you know when you get to midlife, right? And I also have a couple clients like this. I've mentioned before, when you get to midlife, you do things the way you do things, right?
[00:12:02] The whole, you can't eat, teach in old dog new tricks. Is that a thing? I'm not calling us old dogs, but. You know, the essence behind that statement is like, we have had many, many years of being in response to life unfolding, right? Many, many years. We had that whole first part of our life where things were conditioned.
[00:12:27] By our parents and our experiences and our beliefs were formed, right? We had, you know, that period of time between childhood, adolescence, and becoming parents ourselves. Some of us, that was a very short time. Some of us, it was a little longer, but we got to kind of be recognized like, oh, I am my own person.
[00:12:46] I am separate from this family of origin. Who am I? And what perhaps. What do I want to unlearn? Where do I wanna grow? Right? Maybe. I mean, I think about my own twenties. I definitely wasn't in the practice of, hmm, I'm gonna take a look at my beliefs and my conditioning. What do I wanna unlearn? For me, that really showed up in my thirties when I had small children and I started to really be confronted by.
[00:13:14] That reactive nature that lived inside of me that came from beliefs and conditioning that were left over from my childhood. And that for me is when I deep dove into, okay, I wanna do things differently. Right? And that was 20 years ago, 20 ish years ago. And I am still in the practice of unlearning, of relearning, of trying to do things differently now over time.
[00:13:39] Have there been places that maybe at the start were really wobbly? For me? That have become easier? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Because I made a committed, you know, decision to practice showing up differently over time again and again and again. Not perfect by any means, but that commitment, right? To be more intentional in my relationship with my kids specifically.
[00:14:05] Has helped to feel less wobbly, right in this mindset of belonging and significance, as I work to leave the old paradigm of punishment and reward behind. We know the things right? We know the things. Putting them into practice is tricky, and so that's what's coming up with some of my newer members.
[00:14:31] They're really recognizing like, okay, I get it. I get it. I know what I'm supposed to do. I know how I can show up differently, and then the moments come up and I'm back at the old way of being, and that makes perfect sense. I'm gonna remind you of an analogy that I love to share. If you've been listening for any length of time, you've heard this, so I'm gonna say it again 'cause it's a good one.
[00:14:54] I'm proud of it. I live in the Pacific Northwest. It is a very foresty, right? I live in the woods and when you decide to go hiking, if it's a popular hiking trail. You know, it's pretty well maintained. I mean, all of the foot traffic over time has created a path that's easy to follow, right? It's easy to follow.
[00:15:19] You don't have to think much about it, you just carry on. There's the path, right? Here we go. The cool thing about Pacific Northwest is because the forest is so dense, you can look around and you can start to notice indents in the underbrush, and that's where the game trails are. Those are the trails that the deer take, that the cougars take, that the animals that live in the forest take, they, they're not like, I'm gonna follow the human's path.
[00:15:44] They're like, no, I'm gonna pick a different path than the humans. And you know, if you're paying attention when you're hiking, you'll see these game trails. And if you decided, you know what, today? Instead of following this path that's really well laid, that's really maintained, I'm gonna take the game trail.
[00:16:03] You're gonna struggle, right? You're gonna struggle. You're gonna trip. There's gonna be unseen obstacles. You'll probably fall and have to get up. You might need a machete or a tool. It's gonna be really uncomfortable and awkward to walk the game trail. However, if you walk the game trail again and again and again and again, and you learn that game trail and you practice it slowly after time, that game trail wears down and becomes easier to walk.
[00:16:33] And the same is true when you decide to be different, to work on showing up with curiosity instead of judgment. To work on noticing what your hooks and triggers are and working towards pulling your shoulders back and letting them go, right. Whatever the practice is for you, that's tricky. Where you say, ah, I missed that opportunity.
[00:16:57] That's the game trail, right? And even recognizing, I just said this to a client. Even recognizing, gosh darn it, I missed the opportunity is a win because you're starting to see where those opportunities are.
[00:17:21] The important thing too, something that I hear from clients too, is when you move towards a new way of being or a new tool or strategy or a conversation that maybe you've had before, that hasn't gone well, but you know, like, okay, I have to have this conversation with my kiddo. I'm gonna try it a new way.
[00:17:44] I'm gonna be vulnerable, I'm gonna be authentic. I'm gonna start off by saying this is a hard conversation and sometimes we get into it, you know, in a way that feels hurtful. And really I want to have this conversation from a very non-judgmental place, right? When we show up authentically and open and trying to do something different, it can feel awkward and wobbly.
[00:18:08] Right, and that doesn't mean it's not for you. It doesn't mean that it's not gonna be useful. I mean, it's so important for us to be transparent with our teens and tweens. Like, oh my gosh, I've never had a middle schooler before. Right. You're my first middle schooler. I didn't know what was gonna come up. I kind of knew, but I wasn't sure.
[00:18:30] And now here we are. So we do have to have a conversation around limits on screens or limits, you know, on your level of freedom out in the world. Or we get to have conversations around, you know, what our family values are around, you know. Friendships or relationships or family time, right? Like you get to be transparent.
[00:18:53] You get to be transparent, and sometimes that means that you're exposing that you feel a little wobbly, right? Like, I don't know. I'm not sure what the answer, I don't know how I feel about this. My kids have heard me say this like, wow, I'm gonna need some time with this because I don't know, I'm not really sure.
[00:19:11] Like I've even said before, everything inside me wants to be a hard no. So let me sit with it, right? Or let's keep talking about it. Help me see this as something that you can navigate, right? The human experience is messy, you guys, as you know, right? And if you're in it, like the messiness is not, oh, I, I'm a mess.
[00:19:34] The process of being a human in the world in relationship with other humans is messy. Okay. So can we just like. Yeah. Can we just be with that? Can we just be with that? I'm definitely in my own mess and working through my own experiences as we all are, and something that's really important is to remember that your experience is real and valid for you, right?
[00:20:05] This work of being human, let alone the work of being a human raising adolescent humans. It's hard work and I see you in your experience and I see all the different layers that can come up. Right. Are you also moving through divorce? Are you also dealing with addiction in your family? Are you also, is there mental health showing up?
[00:20:29] Right. Have you gotten to a place in your relationship where communication is stunted? Is there a parent of yours that is ailing who is pulling you away from your little nuclear family? Are you struggling in your job, in your work? Like all of these things are happening simultaneously. To us raising teenagers and trying to show up well for our teens and navigating whatever they're getting into, right?
[00:20:55] And I just wanna say that all of that is really real and adds to the work. And I see you right? And I see you in that experience for me lately there's, and you've heard me perhaps talk about it here, but lately I'm really working through how to let go of attachment. Attachment to the narrative, attachment to what my people are going through, attachment to how they're showing up for me.
[00:21:25] And I find it really hard to let go of attachment while also acknowledging and honoring my needs, like being non-attached. And you've heard me say fiercely committed, lovingly detached. Like it's almost an impossible mantra, right? Being fiercely committed to the people that I love. Absolutely. I want what's best for them, and it's their journey, right?
[00:21:55] I'm not the script writer for them. I don't get to decide what their life looks like, whether it's my teenager or my partner, or my brother, sister, mom. Like I don't get to decide that. I can love them. I can make requests around my own needs, and then the work is letting go of the choices that they make.
[00:22:19] Right? And letting go isn't the same as not caring. I don't think, anyway, I'm going back to therapy to sort all this out. So I just think it's really useful not to have the answers 'cause I don't have the answers on this, but to at least be in the question and kinda roll around in it. 'cause I do believe there's something to this non-attachment piece and like giving our people space to sort through their own shit.
[00:22:48] I was listening to a teaching. Today I'm doing this little 30 day Buddhist teaching course on insight timer. And the speaker was talking about one of the eightfold path, the eightfold path, to move us towards letting go of suffering. I am not a Buddhist, nor am I a Buddhist teacher, so I might butcher this, but there's the eightfold path that moves us in the direction away from suffering.
[00:23:18] And the first piece of that is. Right view, it's called right view. And as I was listening today, what it reminded me of is just the practice of recognizing, of dropping into the present moment and noticing our feelings, our thoughts, you know, our physical experience. I really connected with because in positive discipline when I'm teaching a class, if you've taken classes with me, you know we'll do an experiential activity and we process the experience by asking the parents and the participants What were you thinking in that experience?
[00:23:56] What were you feeling, emotion, and what were you deciding to do? And so I was recognizing how that fit in with this Buddhist teaching this morning around right view. And one of the things that really struck me today is he was saying, you know, throughout the day, take a moment to pause and recognize what are my feelings, emotions, what are my thoughts right now, and how is my state of being in this moment?
[00:24:29] Influence the next moment, the rest of the day, this relationship, the next year, the next two years, the next five years. Like if we stay inside of how we are and who we be in our less than conscious moments. How is that gonna influence our life? How are we influencing our life when we live from a reactive state?
[00:24:52] And are we okay with that? Right? And so to me, this teaching was really that invitation again and again and again to pause, to create something, to interrupt the moment. Just to check in and say, okay, what's going on with me right now? How am I feeling? What's an emotion that's alive? What are the thoughts that are running through my head?
[00:25:13] And I also like to check in on my physical experience. Like how can I shift my posture? Where are my shoulders? Where are my feet? Where are my tents? Can I soften? And that for me is a stepping stone towards, okay, who I am versus who I wanna be Like that movement towards. Who do I wanna be is a moment by moment practice.
[00:25:39] And if I wanna be less attached, which I do because my people are doing fine, and even if they're not doing fine, again, it's their journey. And the less attached I can be to it, the better I can just show up as someone who loves them unconditionally. And so when I can check in on what am I attached to right now?
[00:26:02] Do I have an attachment going on right now? Is this emotion tied to an attachment? If I can kind of explore there, then I have a choice point. Am I gonna carry on or am I gonna shift into something different? And the more often we check in with ourselves about that, the better. So I love that. I love that.
[00:26:25] And that again, we talked about intentionality on Monday. That's really, for me, a practice that is super helpful in wearing down the game trail, right? In finding my feet and being ever more comfortable in a new way of being for myself, for my family, for the world.
[00:26:59] And you know, we need to be curious about our experience, right? Something that came up in the Facebook group. Joyful Courage for Parents of Teens. If you're not in it yet, go check it out. Uh, there was an anonymous post by a parent who has a child who's a teen mom. And she was looking for support. The daughter was doing well.
[00:27:27] She was about to graduate from high school, right? The parents have offered tons of support around childcare for her baby. The daughter is graduating with great grades, but the mom's a little concerned, or the parent's a little concerned about not really having much of a plan after graduation. And so she reached out to the Facebook group and there was so much lovely support.
[00:27:47] And there was a little bit of not so lovely support, which is interesting because that Facebook group, something I love about it is it tends to be insanely supportive, right? There's a lot of big parenting groups that can get really ugly and judgy, and that doesn't typically show up in my group. And there were a couple people with really strong opinions.
[00:28:10] And you know, somebody mentioned something about like, well, there's a place in between. And one of the commenters said, no, there is no in-between here. This girl either needs to do X, y, or z. Done. And it reminded me. Because I then responded with like, actually there's a lot of in-between, there's a lot of both and there are so many layers to any given dynamic to consider and to hold and to be curious about.
[00:28:46] And as parents, absolutely. Is it hard to know when to lean in and when to pull back? A hundred percent. Are there times where we should lean in that we might be pulling back? Sure. Are there times where maybe we're we err towards pulling back where we should be leaning in? Absolutely. Back to that whole conversation around, we're humans doing the best that we can with the tools we have, but we are also the experts on our family.
[00:29:12] We have a parental instinct that we get to be curious about and consider. Right. Absolutely. Advice from others can be super helpful. It can also not be super helpful, especially because you are the only one that's really holding all the information. Right. And you know, when I think about this, I think back to my own experience of having a kiddo that went way off the rails.
[00:29:41] And getting advice. Uh, it was really hard, you guys, because there was a lot of opinion around Rowan and her choice to drop out of high school, and there was also a lot of like, you can't let her do that. I love it when people say, why are you letting them? It's like, do you have a teenager? Like, how's that going for you?
[00:30:04] Anyway? You know, I was the person that lived with my daughter. I saw her every day. I saw her struggles. Was I super confident in that choice? Absolutely not. But once it was like, okay, here's the direction we're going in. I got to be a cheerleader and encourager. I also got to pull back and let her be in her experience, and my group of people who I would talk to about what was going on with her, got very small.
[00:30:35] Right. I had to protect myself because I was already in plenty of doubt. I didn't need other people's voices to make me feel worse about what was going on. Right. And again, there is an in-between, right? There's an in-between that exists. Parenting is not cut and dry parenting is relational. It's about the relationship that we have with our kids.
[00:31:02] So to assume somebody who doesn't know you, you know, for them to come in and granted she was asking for advice, she was asking for support. So with this person came in, but then in the comments, as other people commented, this same commenter would come back and say, no, you're wrong. It's like this. There's no InBetween.
[00:31:23] And that's where things got a little dicey in the comment section. I had to show up. Yeah. And again, it's that intentionality last week, right? What's the critical thinking that any given circumstance is offering your child to develop? Right? What's your intention around relationship with your child?
[00:31:44] What's that long-term vision that you have for them? You know, those things. Other people don't know those things about you. And so even when we get advice, it's important to. Measure that advice up against what are your intentions? What do you want for your child? And we get to trust our guts. I listened to Zen Parenting Radio last week.
[00:32:09] It was a great episode about a few different things. One of which was. Parents are evermore remaining really close with their adult children and it's working out. It's not over parenting or controlling, but it is like a relationship with our grown kids that is really close and lovely and was nice to hear them talk about.
[00:32:30] One particular article that came out about that, one of the things that Kathy, who's the co-host, it's Kathy and Todd Adams. One of the things she was talking about was like trusting our gut, and she gave the analogy of like, you know. When we cook, right? You might be someone who has enough experience cooking that you can trust your gut.
[00:32:49] You can trust the measurement. You can throw a little spice here, a little spice there. You know what something needs versus parenting. By the way, I'm not that person. I'm on team Kathy, 'cause she was saying she follows the recipe. I am a total recipe follower. I do not have an instinct when it comes to cooking.
[00:33:07] Parenting though over time. I think the better we know our kids, the more we can trust our gut, right? The stronger the relationship is. And when I say stronger the relationship is. I don't necessarily mean that you've got a kid that tells you everything, that talks to you all the time, that's super open.
[00:33:25] 'cause that doesn't have to be what good relationship or strong relationship looks like. It can look a lot of different ways. The better we know our kids and ourselves, the better we can trust our instinct and our gut. So, you know, it's all part of the soup, right, of this work, this personal growth work and this interpersonal relationship work.
[00:33:48] And it's messy. And the only thing that's certain is uncertainty, right? The only thing we can count on is things to change. And I love that too, because this has come up in some conversations as well. Whatever you're moving through right now is a snapshot of the bigger picture, the bigger tapestry of your life and your kids' life.
[00:34:16] I mean, can you go back to February 22nd? You know, 1989 and remember, I think I was like, I don't know how old I was in 89, 14, 13. Anyway, can you remember what happened on February 22nd of that year? I can't. Right, and you and your kids are not gonna be able to pinpoint February 22nd, 2024, either. Whatever's hard today.
[00:34:43] Whatever's hard tomorrow, whatever's hard this year is gonna change. It's gonna move. And in the end, when you get through it, what do you want to be left with? A relationship with your kiddo, right? I mean, I think that's what you want, because that's what I talk about all the time and you're listening to this podcast.
[00:35:01] So what can you do in all of these snapshot moments? To ensure or to nurture that long-term goal of connection and relationship, right? You get to be in the in-between. You get to be in the curiosity. You get to be in the teasing apart of what's theirs, what's ours? Where can I grow? You get to be in the possibility that you need to go back to therapy like me, because I've hit a block, right?
[00:35:29] I've hit a new place where I get to be the beginner again, right? I get to be the beginner again and learn more about myself and grow for my own sake, but also for the sake of my marriage, the sake of my family, right? This is messy. This is messy. And shifting our mindsets is no easy thing, right? We can do it in our brain, but it takes our heart a little while to catch up.
[00:35:55] We can choose the game trail, and it takes practice. And a commitment to keep choosing the game trail before it gets worn down and becomes this space that is familiar to us. So yeah. How's that? Is that useful? So my questions are one, what are your takeaways? What were those aha moments that you had to write down or capture in your phone or go back to in this conversation?
[00:36:28] Second question, what is a current challenge that you are moving through that would be served by some compassion and some curiosity around that? Feeling, thinking, deciding, and then finally. What can you do to practice interrupting your day on a regular basis so that you can be more aware of your present moment so you can be more aware of when your thoughts, feelings, decisions don't necessarily align with who you wanna be?
[00:37:11] Right? What kind of practice can you have? What will you do to help yourself with that interruption? I'm really excited to hear what you have to say about this. I'm gonna post those questions in the Joyful Courage for Teens Facebook group. If you're not in that group, all you gotta do is search Joyful Courage for parents of teens on Facebook.
[00:37:31] Ask to join, but answer the questions 'cause I don't let anybody in if they don't answer the questions. And there's like three questions there. Not hard, but it's just kind of a filtering thing to keep the bots out. So, yeah, that's what I have for you. That's what I have for you. I am off leaving on a jet plane this afternoon.
[00:37:49] I get to go to one of my best friends from high school is getting remarried, bring in the band back together. All the girls we get to play and enjoy each other. Laugh about high school one day. Your kids too will be laughing about that period of time. So stay in perspective. Everyone. Have a beautiful weekend and uh, yeah, I'll talk to you real soon.
[00:38:12] Bye.
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