Eps 613: How to Be the Parent Your Teen Actually Turns To

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[00:00:00] Casey O'Roarty: Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Joyful Courage Podcast. This is a place where parents of tweens and teens come to find inspiration, information, and encouragement in the messy terrain of adolescents this season of parenting. Is no joke. And while the details of what we're all moving through might be slightly different, we are indeed having a very collective experience.
[00:00:30] This is a space where we center building, relationship, nurturing life skills, and leaning into our own personal growth and man. The opportunities abound, right. My name is Casey Ody. I am a parent coach, positive discipline lead trainer, and captain of the adolescent ship over at Sprout Bowl. I'm also a speaker and a published author.
[00:00:53] I've been working with parents and families for over 20 years. And continue to navigate my own experience of being a mom with my two young adult kids. I'm so honored that you're here and listening. Please give back to the podcast by sharing it with friends or on social media rate and review us on Apple or Spotify.
[00:01:13] Word of mouth is how we grow. Thank you so, so much. Enjoy the show.
[00:01:24] Hi, everybody. Hi, it's me. It's your friendly podcast host, Casey oti. I'm stoked that I get to be here with you this week, yet again, I just want you to know that I am super honored that you are listening in, that you choose to spend time with me because there's lots of things that you could be spending your time doing, and maybe you're doing some of those things while you listen to me.
[00:01:49] Thumbs up from multitasking. Um, but yeah, I just really just wanna acknowledge there are a lot of people out there putting out good stuff. And you're coming here to hear me. That feels really good. Yeah. Life keeps lifeing over here so. This show goes live October 2nd. So by that time we'll be a couple days out from my husband's latest surgery.
[00:02:17] So he had umbilical hernia surgery on Monday. And actually as I am recording this, he's. In his procedure right now. So thoughts and prayers and meditations and good vibes and all the woowoo juju to my husband as he continues to heal from. All the things, all the physical ailments that the universe is delivering to him love him, and he really is aspirational.
[00:02:48] I did a little video on my Facebook page, um, my personal page, just talking about how inspired I am by him and how he is showing up to this. Stage of life and how it is unfolding for him. And you know, I'm in relationship with that unfolding as well as his partner and caregiver. And we're really in it, you guys, as so many of you are as well.
[00:03:16] I talked about this in my newsletter actually last week. I just talked about letting go and being with and recognizing that whatever life looks like right now. You are not alone. I'm not alone. Midlife is a whole thing. Midlife is a whole thing and I love it. I love midlife. I love this season. I know I keep talking about this, but I really do, and it comes with a lot of stuff, but thank God this isn't going on when we're in our twenties.
[00:03:48] Shout out to all of you that dealt with really big. Diagnosis and life events in your twenties when you only had 20 something years of life experience. Wowser, I am glad to be where I am with 52 years of life experience and using the tools and the skills and the perspective and the lens that's been developed over time to really meet and allow and receive all the things that are showing up.
[00:04:17] So. There you go. Today I am coming in solo, just you and me, and I wanna talk about something that comes up a lot on the podcast that I've talked about before. I talk about it in my, um, live workshops. By the way, if you are someone who has any kind of organization that's looking for a speaker, I am for hire.
[00:04:39] Hello. Fly me out. Hire me to be your keynote to do a workshop. I am here for it. But yeah. Something that I talk a lot about in my live trainings and workshops, as well as here on the pod, is how to be the person that your teen turns to. How to be the parent who can say, Hey, you can tell me anything. I've got you.
[00:05:06] I'm here for it. And have them believe you. Not only believe you, but have them say, okay, my parents got me and I just screwed up royally. Or I'm in big, deep trouble. I need to turn towards my parent, versus, oh God, I cannot let my parent find out that I did the thing. Right. We want them to believe us when we say, you can tell me anything.
[00:05:32] And so that's really. What I am gonna be talking about here today on the pod. That's where we're going. That's where we're heading. So, you know, the first thing I wanna talk about is what builds that belief? Like how can we nurture that belief and really increase the likelihood that our kiddos. Share with us and talk to us, right?
[00:05:56] Because we all, a lot of us say, Hey, I'm here for you. You can tell me anything. And there's a difference between saying it and our kiddos actually believing that it's true. Right? So what makes that difference? I think what makes the biggest difference isn't that we say it, but it's how we respond outside of those moments when we're telling them that we've got them, that they can share with us that, that we can hold space for them.
[00:06:26] What does that look like for you when your kiddos are getting into mischief, whether they come to you and say, Hey, whoopsie, I did this thing, or whether you get a call from school or another parent. You know, or the police, how are you responding to that? What does that look and sound like? And I'm the first one to say, man, those calls are rough.
[00:06:48] Those are rough calls. We get all worked up in our own stuff around what do people think? What does this mean about me? We have to navigate feeling unprepared, feeling embarrassed, feeling disappointed. Feeling guilty, feeling shame, feeling all those things that none of us like to hold. And when those feelings come up, oftentimes we react, right?
[00:07:15] And we react quick. And in that reaction, we are sending a really clear message to our kiddos about how we feel about them, about how safe we are to be the person for them to confide in. We're sending messages around what we believe about them and what they're capable of, and they have this underdeveloped lens, whether it's 12 years of development, 15, 18 years of development, right to see us through.
[00:07:50] To make sense of our reaction, and it's just really important that all those little things that come up, we stay grounded in. This idea that, one, we don't have the whole picture. Two, we get to hear from our kiddos. Three, we get to believe in our kiddos. Right. I love, and I've said this before on the podcast, Dr.
[00:08:15] Becky is uh, another parent educator coach. She's written books, she's got communities. I heard her on a podcast talking about. The power of telling our kiddos, I believe you. I believe you. This was hard. I believe you. This was embarrassing. I believe you. You're doing the best you can. I believe you. You feel that?
[00:08:37] You're being misunderstood. I believe you, right? The first thing that is so important. For our kiddos to really trust that they can come to us is we get to show them through our actions, not our words, but our actions, that we believe them, that we're gonna listen to them, that we're gonna hold them in the light.
[00:09:01] We're gonna hold them in this place of, Hey man, everything's figureoutable. I've got you. This sounds really hard, right? That validation tool. We get to really be in the action of getting in the ring with them. Right. And, you know, I've had some pretty major things be shared with me from my kids. Um, things that I know other kids are not sharing with their parents.
[00:09:29] That rocked my core right? And broke my heart a little bit. And recognizing the oof, like the, the punch to the gut. Okay. Yeah, this is big. That's an indicator of this is big, and how can I be there for my kiddo, because if my kiddo has engaged in something or made a mistake or is a part of something that they're.
[00:09:56] Regretting or worried about? Afraid of if they're in that place. I don't need to add to that. I get to be that soft landing where I get to say, okay, wow, oof. I see you in this big. This is major and together we can work through this. I am here for you and it's not a together. We can work through this. Like I'm gonna plow ahead and make it easy for you, but I am gonna show up.
[00:10:29] I am gonna walk beside you. I am gonna let you feel the consequences of this choice and this mistake. And I'm gonna also remind you that you can, you can live through the consequences. You can live through the problem solving, right? So really this is about action. This is about how we show up when they come to us with something big, or when somebody else comes to us with something big and we find out not from our kiddo, but from the outside world.
[00:11:13] And you know, there are some subtle and not so subtle things that we do that unintentionally sends the opposite message, right? That maybe it's not safe to open up to us and. I think it's important to highlight that here, right When we are overly judgmental, when we overreact, when we are dismissive, these, create a space that does not feel safe to our kiddos, right?
[00:11:47] Like I already mentioned, if they feel like, oh God, I'm in trouble and I can't go to my parent 'cause they're gonna freak out, they're gonna blame me, they're gonna judge me, they're gonna make me feel worse. They're not gonna come to us. Right? And that's not a character flaw. That's them keeping themselves safe and deciding in that moment, I've gotta figure this out on my own.
[00:12:11] I've gotta make this go away because my parent can't handle this, or my parent won't handle this. So when we say things like, oh, you know, this isn't that big of a deal, or What were you thinking? Or How could you. Or, oh God, what are people gonna think? That takes the focus away from this very real experience that our teens are inside of and trying to make sense of and moves it out of that place and into this nonsense land that kind of centers us, right?
[00:12:49] And so over time. Our kids learn that we don't really mean it when we say we have their back, that we don't really mean it when we say that we've got them, that we're here for them no matter what, and over time, they're gonna collect that evidence and they aren't gonna turn to us. They might turn towards their peers, who by the way, are as unskilled as they are at making sense of all these things.
[00:13:14] Hopefully they have another adult that's healthy in their life to turn to, or they're gonna internalize it. And they're gonna feel alone, and that's just gonna exacerbate whatever emotional experience they're having about themselves, it's going to get in the way of their self-esteem, their worthiness, their enoughness.
[00:13:35] So we get to really pay attention to the subtle and not so subtle things that might be sending the opposite message. Right. And I just wanna give a little caveat here. Some of us have kids that are super sharers. They are open, they temperamentally are full of, you know, expression, self-expression, and they do let us in.
[00:13:56] That's who they are. And some of our kids are more closed temperamentally and are less expressive. So it's one thing to have a kiddo who just is a little bit. You know, cards are, are held a little bit closer to the chest versus a kiddo that doesn't trust the space, right? So you get to kind of think you, with you and your kiddo and, and who they are and are they not coming to you because.
[00:14:27] You've got something to clean up to make this space safer, or is it that your kid isn't a big verbal external expressive human, in which case, that's not a terrible thing, but it is really important just to continue to kind of nurture that message around. Hey man, I know that you're not really big about opening up to me about what's going on with you, but I'm just gonna keep reminding you.
[00:14:51] I can handle it, I can hold it, and if it's not me, there are other people that you can talk to when things get sketchy or difficult. Like the important thing is that they have support right
[00:15:09] now. How should we be showing up for them? Right? When parents think about being there for their teens, and I say there in quotes, when parents think about being there for their teens, they often imagine that they have the right advice or solutions, and this invitation is really about shifting from being fixers.
[00:15:31] To being listeners and listening in a way that builds trust. Because sometimes when we are super fixers, again, that experience to our teens can feel dismissive. It feels like we missed the point. We jump into fix before we have truly witnessed and listened to our kiddos. So how do we listen? How do we stay present?
[00:15:57] Right? Curiosity. I talk about it all the time. Being curious. Tell me more about that. Tell me more about that. Tell me more. Is there more? Wow, that sounds really hard. Wow. That must have been a tough decision for you to make. Wow. I know what it's like to impulsively do things from an emotional place and then look back and have it, you know, not really be the best move That sounds.
[00:16:27] Tricky. You're in a tricky situation. I see you in this tricky situation, right? So listening, mirroring back what you're hearing, asking clarifying questions, right? Validating their experience as real and true and valid. I love that phrase. Equally valid, separate realities. You might be listening to your kiddo and seeing a bigger picture from your place of midlife and experience, and you know, all the things, the perspective that you've grown into, but you get to also recognize that you've got a 15-year-old or a 17-year-old, or a 12-year-old who's in this experience.
[00:17:12] With the limited perspective that they have, and rather than saying, well, I know the way that this is gonna play out, or I, you know, have all the answers, you get to just be with them and validate where they're at. Right. Validate where they're at again. Oof, this sounds really hard, right? I'm so glad that you came to me with this.
[00:17:37] Thank you for being honest with me. It took a lot of courage. To come to me, I'm here for you. You don't have to figure this out alone. And you know, especially when you know things are hard to hear. Maybe if you've got a kiddo who's like, I did this. Just wanna let you know, you know, it didn't go bad, but I probably shouldn't have done it.
[00:18:02] And we recognize that we're having an emotional experience with the information we're receiving. You get to say also like, you know. I need a second to take this in. It matters to me that you came to me and I'm having some big feelings. I'm having some big feelings, or I might not get this perfect. I wanna be here for you.
[00:18:23] I wanna understand, give me a second. Another phrase, piece of language that I really like is. Tell me more about what this was like for you. Um, and then going back to those teens that aren't big sharers, right. When they only give us a little bit, or we can tell something's going on, we can say things like, I want you to know that whenever you're ready, I'm here to listen.
[00:18:48] We can say, I totally respect your privacy, and I'm here when you feel like talking or, you know, I, I might, I might not always have the right thing to say. But I always wanna hear what's going on for you. Right? We get to reassure them that we are available, that we can handle it without pressuring them, right?
[00:19:11] So there's that. When we think about. The long game, which I love to talk about this, right? And honestly, you guys, I now have a 22-year-old, right? And this 22-year-old, God bless her, you all really appreciate her because she's been on the show. She's shared so generously about her experience through adolescence and her different challenges, her experience of me.
[00:19:42] You know, and I, and I also have, I have clients too whose kids, you know, that I've worked with over time for many, many years, and now they're coming into this new place of like, oh shoot, you're right. Like I'm finally seeing that our kids have their own journeys and they grow through what they go through, and they get to the other side.
[00:20:02] I mean, Rowan is killing me in the best possible way with how she is navigating. Being a young adult and truly adulting in so many ways, and the long game is real, like what do we want? We want content contributing responsible young adults. We want young adults who realize they design their life. We want young adults that rec, or I do, I want kids that recognize, okay, everything's figureoutable problems and challenges are a part of the deal.
[00:20:42] I've got this right. And so some small, consistent ways that you can show up to the day to day that really cement. That message around, you can bring me anything. Really, it's about our daily rituals. How are we checking in with them? How are we connecting with them? Not even checking in. 'cause that gets to be a lot, right?
[00:21:05] Like, how are you? How are you, how are you? It's not about that, but it is like, how are we greeting them? What are the daily little bits and pieces, nonverbal and verbal cues, what are the micro moments that we're having with them that send this message of, I think you're amazing and you know, I'm thinking about some of my clients who have kiddos that are really in the struggle, and what are the ways that we are, again, sending that message of, I see you, I love you.
[00:21:41] I believe in you. It's hard right now. It won't always be hard, although be careful with that one because it's a little dismissive sometimes when we say it won't always feel like this. So play with that one.
[00:21:56] So my kids are outta the house now, right? They're 19, they're 22, they're in college. They're young adulting, and I've really been working on sending them messages each day or every couple days, just around like. I see you. You're killing it. I'm naming their skills, right? I see you rising into maturity. I see your level of responsibility.
[00:22:20] I see you doing hard things, right? You got this. I see you getting this. So what are those daily micro moments that you're having with your kiddo? And remember that those micro moments, those daily rituals, it's about planting seeds. Right seeds over time where you know you're offering these possibilities and they're slowly willing to try them on.
[00:22:49] I am courageous. I am more responsible. I am doing hard things right. We get to kind of, uh, poke them into recognizing where they are growing. So that over time, you know, when they have a, a crazy day like Rowan shared with me about her first day of school last week. So she transferred to a four year university.
[00:23:14] Did I talk about this already? I don't think I did. She transferred to a four year university and she has to take the bus from her apartment. She's not a bus rider. We don't do a lot of public transit out here. She took the bus. She found her classes, she couldn't find her classes. She got to class, she was late, she was sweaty.
[00:23:30] Like all these things. She's telling me about her first day and I'm just laughing and she's laughing and at the end of this story I said, oh my God, Rowan, there were like 10 different moments in your day today, where not that long ago, you would've said, yeah, peace out. I am done. I'm not doing this. And instead you moved through it, you were a yes.
[00:23:51] And that's rad. Right. And I don't think she was thinking like, oh my gosh, I, there were 10 moments where I could have bailed and I didn't, but I got to bring that up. I got to bring that up. Right. So what gets in the way, like what might be getting in the way for you when your teen takes you up on that invitation?
[00:24:12] Share something really big and scary or uncomfortable, and you have a hard time with it. Right. So this is about your self-awareness, your regulation. 'cause, and I've said this before, having this open, honest relationship with your teenager, having a relationship where they can come to you and talk to you and tell you things does not mean that they don't get into mischief.
[00:24:38] It's not like the antidote for novelty seeking and risk taking instead. You get a front row seat to the novelty seeking and the risk taking. So you've really gotta take care of yourself and be ready to manage your own emotional experience, self-regulate, and be present when your kiddos let you into. The mistakes are the bad decisions, poor decisions, poor choices, maybe that impulsively they made, or after the fact realized it was not the most useful thing to do.
[00:25:14] So, you know, we all come into parenting with our own fears, our own stories, our own emotional reiv. It'd be great if all of that was healed and handled before the teen years, but guess what? There's just certain things that come up that are buried until our kiddos kind of dig in and shine a light on those places that we forgot about or thought weren't gonna be an issue.
[00:25:46] Right. So, I know I was a mischief maker. I wasn't like totally off the rails. Me, eh, I mean, but I was pretty off the rails, especially when I got into college and. I know that sometimes that clouds my ability to be with my kids'. Mischief making. I worry 'cause I got away with a lot. I did a lot of mischief making and somehow did not have to live with terrible consequences.
[00:26:18] Thank God. 'cause they were all, it was, it could have gone really ugly. You guys and our kids are maybe doing some of the similar things that we did. Or maybe you come into the teen years and you were like a really well-behaved kiddo who followed all the rules. And you've got this kid who's like, I'm an experiential learner and I'm gonna try all the things.
[00:26:39] And I hear you telling me not to do that thing, but I'm gonna have to work it out myself. I'm gonna have to, you know, cause and effect this thing. I. And regardless of who you were as a teen, you really gotta work on letting that go and being who your teen needs you to be. Right. And recognize when your fear is driving.
[00:27:01] You recognize when your experience of being a teenager or your inner teen is, is getting in the way of really showing up. And that's just about self-awareness. And you get to really kind of look at your response, your reaction, and maybe your reaction isn't like in the moment, but you can think to yourself, oh my God, that really freaked me out when they told me that thing.
[00:27:31] What was it about that mistake? That's so scary to me? Right? You get to do your own self-reflection and exploration around. What makes it really hard for you?
[00:27:53] I had someone recently in the Facebook group. Respond to one of the podcasts that came out a couple weeks ago or last week about teen substance use. And this parent said, you know, we've kind of moved through some substance use. We've moved through a period of time where it was really scary with mental health, and now my child is, you know, a month, two months into making better choices and I'm really struggling with.
[00:28:23] Not being suspicious all the time and, and, and trusting her. And so, you know, I think there's something really powerful when we think about shifting trust. We like to sit inside of trust, being like, I trust you to do the right thing. I trust you not to make any mistakes, but really. What if we hold trust as I trust you to grow through what you go through.
[00:28:50] I trust that you're gonna learn from your mistakes. I trust that you're doing the best you can with the tools you have in the moment, right? And I trust that you want a good life. That's a different way of holding trust. So how do we respond then? Right? And I already gave some examples of some language to use in ways that build safety, but it's also.
[00:29:14] You know, I, I, I love to think about, there's one particular experience that I had with my son, oh, God bless him, who gave me a doozy in the car. He was a junior, and, uh, first of all, I couldn't believe that he told me. What he told me, basically made a choice that was. Not anything that I would want him to choose, and he did, and it was, you know, he lived through it.
[00:29:43] It was fine. But I remember sitting in the car and listening to him. I was driving and I was just floored one about the content of what he was sharing, but also that he was telling me. That he was telling me his mom, and at one point I've talked about this before, actually at one point I did say to him, Hey babe, I am, I just wanna make sure that you understand that I'm a, I appear really calm right now, but I'm kind of freaking out.
[00:30:20] Like this is a scary decision that you made and not something I'd hoped you'd ever do, and I'm just really grateful that you're sharing with me. Right, and being calm and being, and I mean, the same with Rowan. I remember Rowan would tell me things too, and, and it would always start with, I have to tell you something.
[00:30:45] And when she'd say that, I would literally think to myself, okay, I'm gonna feel my feet on the floor. I'm gonna pull back my shoulders. I'm gonna take a breath. I'm gonna open my heart and I'm gonna, I'm ready. Like, what is it? You know? And. I am not gonna pretend that sometimes it isn't. You know, soul crushing to hear that your kiddos are making risky choices or have made big mistakes.
[00:31:13] But we need to choose to be there for them and to respond in a way that is helpful and not hurtful. Right. And. Again, to be that person that we said we would be. I'm here for you. I've got you. I'll be your soft landing. We'll figure this out together. Right? So self-awareness, self-regulation, and uh, deep breaths, right?
[00:31:45] And you know, back to those parents with kiddos that aren't sharing a lot. And you know, I know I've got, in my membership community, it's the whole range of parents, some of them with kiddos that are really forthcoming, other parents with kids that are very closed off, others with kids, like it's situation dependent.
[00:32:05] Right. And. I want you to recognize too, if you're a parent who feels hurt or left out, when your teen doesn't share with you, you know it's important that you work that out for yourself. And it's not, you know, your kiddo's job to make you feel any certain way. So it's not about pressuring them or making them feel guilty for not opening up.
[00:32:34] Instead, you get to be patient. You get to practice your own resilience, and you get to just continue to send that message of, Hey, listen, when and if you wanna talk to me, I'm here for it. I think too, this is a place where we get to recognize. Is this a temperament or is this something that we've created, a dynamic we've created over time?
[00:32:58] So you get to also kind of take stock in how you have been showing up, you know, earlier in their elementary years or middle school years. If you, you have an older teen, like how have you shown up in the past, right? What has been your contribution to this space that you're trying to hold for them? And it, if, if it has been a place where you've.
[00:33:19] Freaked out or been judgmental or critical, you get to own that. And you get to let them know, man, that was not useful, and that doesn't align with me telling you that I've got you and that you can come to me with anything and I'm really gonna work on that. I'm gonna work on that because it is more important to me that you know that this is a safe space than it is, you know, than my emotional experiences.
[00:33:45] Right? Like. You get to pick them, you get to pick and choose to be who they need you to be. Right? And that takes practice. It takes a lot of practice. And sometimes it means, like, I'm thinking about one particular time where one of my kiddos shared something, a really big mistake, a really big scary mistake.
[00:34:08] And I spent about 30 seconds being like, are you. Fucking kidding me. Like, what the hell? Why? You know, I had a moment, I'm not gonna lie, where I was like, ah, what? And then I said, okay, I got that out. I got that out. You made a mistake. We're gonna figure this out. Right? So you also get to be human. Like recognize that you also get to be human.
[00:34:35] It's hard. We're reactive, we're human beings, right? And when you kind of blah, freak out. Recognize where you're at when you're there. Pull it back, feel those feet on the floor. Open that heart, take a breath, okay? And be the person they need you to be. Right? And if you're listening right now and you're thinking, well, I don't know if my team believes me when I say that I'm here for them, you know, a first step.
[00:35:04] That you can take to move in that direction is go to the source and say, you know, I have said to you like, you can call if you're in trouble. I'll come get you. No questions asked. I've told you like, I've got you. I'm here for you. And I'm wondering, do you believe me when I say that and find out what they think?
[00:35:26] And be aware that that kind of question you might also have to follow up with. Like, no, really, I wanna know because I want you to believe me. So if I'm doing things that keep you from feeling like I'm the first call that you're gonna make when you get into trouble, I wanna know. I wanna know so that I can be there for you, right?
[00:35:47] And really lean in and be ready to hear what they have to say. They might tell you like, yeah, I know that you say that, but I, yeah, I don't really believe you. I don't want you to freak out, or I don't wanna feel worse about it, or whatever they're gonna tell you and. It's not about you arguing with them about how they experience you or dismissing it.
[00:36:12] You get to say, thank you for the feedback. Here's what I'm gonna work on. Thank you for the feedback. Here's what I'm gonna work on. And then anytime there's any low hanging fruit where you can work on those things, on being a better listener, on pulling in the judgment, pulling in the criticism where you have an opportunity to not move into fix-it mode, but instead be a listener, be a validator.
[00:36:34] Ask them what they need. Do that. Practice that when the stakes are low and over time, what you're giving them is evidence that you can handle it, that you can show up the way that they need you to show up. All right,
[00:36:52] so what do you think? What do you think? What is coming up for you as you listen? To all of this information, I was more off the cuff. Today, I'm working on being more off the cuff and less scripted because I just feel like that is a more authentic experience for all of you here with the podcast. But this is so important to me and I just really wanted to come in here and offer it up to you.
[00:37:18] This is about you working on consistency, on presence on your own, self-regulation and self-awareness. If you want to create that safe space for your kiddo to come to you and share, you've gotta do your work and it's practice. Every small step builds the trust that makes the big conversations possible.
[00:37:42] Right. Every small step that, again, that going after that low hanging fruit, you get to build the trust that makes the big conversations possible.
[00:37:56] And if you're listening today and you're like, oof, I got some work to do. I could use some support. I am your coach. I'm your coach. You can book a free call with me, a 15 minute call. You can share a little bit. I can offer you a few tips, and we can figure out, hey, maybe one-on-one work is the right move right now.
[00:38:17] Maybe you could use a little handholding. Maybe you could use someone you know who's on the sidelines, listening, hearing you, seeing you, and supporting you, and making the shifts that you know you wanna make. To strengthen your relationship with your teen, or maybe you're looking for a more active community, a more active parenting community.
[00:38:36] The membership Living, joyful Courage. Doors open each month. Don't tell anyone. No, just kidding. You can tell everyone, but every month I open the doors. To new members. So again, make that call. Let's get on the phone. Let's see what the right fit is for you. You can go to be spr audible.com/explore to get on a 15 minute call with me.
[00:38:58] There's no risk here. There's only reward. Let's connect and see what you need and what is available to you. I am super grateful for you and all the ways that you support the work that we're doing here. I hope that you've enjoyed the last couple of weeks. The last couple interviews have kind of centered substance use and recovery.
[00:39:19] The first one being about our teens substance use just this last week, but last Monday, uh, a couple days ago. I interviewed Emily Redondo about her story of parenting in recovery. You know, I feel like there's something coming, an unfolding coming ahead where here on the show, you know, we are parenting teens.
[00:39:44] We're also navigating ailing parents, or maybe you're like me and you've got a partner who's got some health challenges or perhaps there's some financial stress or like midlife, right? Midlife is all the things. So you know, just letting you know that the podcast is really, it really exists for all of us that are moving through this season of life as humans.
[00:40:11] And part of that is parenting teens, and there's a lot more that comes along to it. So keep tuning in, keep trusting that I'm gonna bring you content that is useful and hopefully empowering and encouraging. I've got you. And I believe in you. I believe in all of us. I believe in myself, and I just think we've got such a special thing going on.
[00:40:30] So thank you for being here. Reach out with any questions or feedback that you have, [email protected]. Book that explore call be sprout.com/explore. I'll see you soon. I appreciate you. Bye.
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