Eps 264: Michelle Icard Shares about the Crucial Conversations to Have With Our Middle Schoolers

Episode 264

My guest today is Michelle Icard.

Michelle is a member of the Today show parenting team and NBC News Learn. The author of Fourteen Talks by Age Fourteen and Middle School Makeover, her work has been featured in the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, The Christian Science Monitor, Redbook, Time, and People.

Her leadership curriculum for middle schoolers, Athena’s Path and Hero’s Pursuit, have been implemented at schools across the U.S., and her summer camp curriculum is offered at more than twenty camps each summer. She lives with her family in Charlotte, North Carolina.


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Takeaways from the show

  • Being the leader and designer of your life
  • Michelle’s new book: 14 talks by age Fourteen
  • How lots of little conversations are more helpful than one big conversation
  • BRIEF acronym
  • Conversation crashers
  • Be specific with your kids
  • Isolation is a part of exploring independence
  • Sitting inside of having tough conversations with your child
  • Having trust in your kids that they will learn from their mistakes
  • Having a neutral expression while talking to your kids

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Where to find Michelle

Website | Instagram | 14 Talks By Age Fourteen Book

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