Eps 566: Positive Discipline for Teens Part Two – The mindset shift

Joyful Courage, today, means finding satisfaction in doing enough…. pausing in the present moment and checking in on my internal experience. Regardless of what is happening in my external environment, I get to align my emotional experience with feelings of satisfaction and contentment.

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[00:00:00] Casey O'Roarty: Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Joyful Courage Podcast. This is a place where parents of tweens and teens come to find inspiration, information, and encouragement in the messy terrain of adolescents this season of parenting. Is no joke. And while the details of what we're all moving through might be slightly different, we are indeed having a very collective experience.
[00:00:30] This is a space where we center building, relationship, nurturing life skills, and leaning into our own personal growth and man. The opportunities abound, right. My name is Casey O'Roarty. I am a parent coach, positive discipline lead trainer, and captain of the adolescent ship over at Sproutable. I'm also a speaker and a published author.
[00:00:53] I've been working with parents and families for over 20 years. And continue to navigate my own experience of being a mom with my two young adult kids. I'm so honored that you're here and listening. Please give back to the podcast by sharing it with friends or on social media rate and review us on Apple or Spotify.
[00:01:13] Word of mouth is how we grow. Thank you so, so much. Enjoy the show.
[00:01:24] Hey everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. I am excited for this week's Monday show, so hopefully you tuned in a couple episodes ago. What I'm doing here is on Mondays I'm releasing shows. At least for the next few weeks highlighting the positive discipline for teens book. So I encourage you to get your hands on that.
[00:01:51] We're taking three chapters at a time and deep diving into it. So last Monday was part one. We covered chapters one, two, and three. This week is part two. We're capturing and deep diving into chapters four, five, and six. You can listen along without reading the book, but I would double down on your learning and get your hands on a copy.
[00:02:14] I think that you will be stoked about that. Um, yeah, so, yay. So yeah. This week we're covering chapters four, five, and six of positive discipline for teens, highlighting mistakes, being opportunities to learn, highlighting how to motivate our teens. And finally, chapter six, highlights. Does your teen hear anything you say?
[00:02:39] And actually that chapter has a lot of content around emotions and emotional language. I love these three chapters, and I love that I get to dig into them as a group. There's such a big mindset shift inside of these chapters, and truly a huge mindset shift in general when we're talking about raising teenagers with positive discipline.
[00:03:04] Right? That's the biggest hurdle for parents when they learn the, the strategies and the information about positive discipline. It's really like we're not robotic, right? We've got emotions, we've got conditioning, we've got beliefs, we've got assumptions. So it is those things that really get in the way of implementing positive discipline in our parenting.
[00:03:29] We can't really get around how we were raised and the seeds that were planted by our experience of being parented. Right? And that's the reason it's so hard to wrap our heads around what we hear from. The positive parenting world in general. I am sure I'm not the only voice that you listen to under this umbrella of positive parenting.
[00:03:49] I hope I'm not the only voice 'cause there's some other powerful voices out there and I know even though it all sounds really good, right? The ideas, the strategies, the tools sound really good and we're all in when things are going well. What I notice about inside of my communities and with my clients is that when things start to go sideways, also in my own experience, right when things start to go sideways, as they do during adolescence, it's easy to slide into what we were raised with.
[00:04:23] I'm really gonna consider that today during the show, I'm really gonna come back to where we're bumping up against our conditioning, right? So most of us, I would. I'm, I am making an assumption here, but I'm guessing most of us are Gen X, right? There might be some young boomers in the listening crowd, or some older millennials, but I would say the majority of us raising teenagers.
[00:04:51] Are part of the Gen X generation, and let's consider what we were raised with, right? We were raised with, and I'm gonna make some blanket statements here, maybe it was different in your home, but listen for some themes that may have been a part of your experience growing up. So the Gen X mindset around parenting, what we received, we received a lot of tough love.
[00:05:17] We received a lot of autonomy and the expectation to be obedient, right? There was some independence that we developed oftentimes through absence, not because our parents encouraged it, but because they had to work. They weren't emotionally available to us, or they didn't see emotional guidance as part of parenting, and they really held.
[00:05:42] Discipline as punishment. So many of us were raised in households where correcting behavior looked like yelling or spanking or being grounded. I was grounded a lot or shamed. Right? There was this overarching, because I said so vibe with little explanation or collaboration. And this idea that parental authority wasn't to be questioned, right?
[00:06:09] Emotions weren't the focus and expressing feelings, especially negative ones, were often shut down or mocked. I definitely experienced this right, and success was really external, good grades, getting your chores done. Politeness for me, how I dressed, how I showed up, all mattered more. Then emotional health or understanding, and I realize again, this is a broad stroke.
[00:06:35] This may have not been your exact experience, but my guess is yes, some themes in that really landed for you. Going back to what it was like in your household. Now the positive discipline mindset, what many of us are working to shift towards on the daily and what the positive discipline for Teens book is helping us to get to is centering things like connection, respect, and teaching.
[00:07:05] Right? So we're also down with independence, but it's independence through connection. We support our teens. And guide them and encourage them to be capable, not just leaving them alone. Like, good luck with that. Figure it out. Right? Discipline in this mindset is really about teaching. So when mischief mistakes, misbehavior shows up, it's met with curiosity and problem solving, not punishment.
[00:07:30] We are working to shift into a, let's talk about it vibe, right? Like communication is two way I. Right. Explanations and understanding are encouraged rather than shut down. Emotions are welcomed, feelings are validated and seen as opportunities to teach regulation and empathy, and to process our experiences.
[00:07:55] We also hold in the positive discipline mindset that success is an internal game, right? The focus is on self-awareness, resilience, responsibility. And long term emotional intelligence. So when you consider those two mindsets around parenting, one that we were raised with and one that we're trying. To promote as we move through our parenting journey, it makes sense that it's work and practice to show up differently, right?
[00:08:28] It makes sense. And of course, I wanna acknowledge that there is also trauma in our past and varying self-regulation skills that each of us have. Parenting through the teen years is an emotional experience. It taps into our deepest parts and anything that remains raw or unhealed. Can get poked at and escalated when we are moving through what we're moving through with our teens.
[00:08:54] This is why we're moving through this book. This is what lights me up so much with the work I do. It's really all about personal growth and developing as a human through the season of parenting adolescents. I'm super into it, and I know you are too. Otherwise, why are you listening? I'm so glad that you are, and I love.
[00:09:15] That there are other people like you who get really lit up by all of this. So yeah. The chapters I'm highlighting today really get into this shift of mindset. Chapter four is titled, how Can Mistakes Be Wonderful Opportunities to Learn? How Can They, what is this? What is this? Voodoo science Mistakes being wonderful Opportunities to learn.
[00:09:40] This is actually one of the pillars of positive discipline. This statement, mistakes are wonderful Opportunities to learn. So before we dive into that, let's revisit how mistakes may have been handled by our parents. Right. Mistakes are often met with punitive responses. So mistakes were wrong. Mistakes were seen as bad behavior, rather than learning opportunities.
[00:10:02] Again, that consequence. That was consequences were usually swift and harsh with the idea that when we made mistakes, we needed to really learn a lesson, right? And we were gonna learn a lesson through punitive consequences. There was also a lot of shame-based messaging. So what's wrong with you? Mistakes were often personalized instead of like, that was a bad choice.
[00:10:25] We might have heard your being bad, you should be ashamed of yourself. Our parents might have used embarrassment as a tool. Right, like publicly. I don't know. I mean, I hope this didn't happen to you, but publicly pointing out a child's mistake or scolding them in front of others wasn't uncommon. I know for me there was definitely like, you should feel embarrassed about that.
[00:10:46] That was a message that I got, and there was a low tolerance for repetition. Our parents really didn't think they should have to tell us the same thing twice, right? Repeating a mistake was often met with escalated anger or frustration. Not a lot of patience for developing normal learning curves, right.
[00:11:07] Perfectionism in disguise. So even small slip ups could trigger overreactions, especially if they reflected poorly on the parent. And, and while I'm saying like I know our parents did the best they could. The tools they had, right? They were parenting through the conditioning that they received from their parents, right?
[00:11:26] So we're just highlighting where we came from and why it's challenging to wrap our heads around some of these concepts. And the last thing you know, there was a lot of emotional suppression. There wasn't a space to reflect on the choices we were making or repair our mistakes. We were expected to move on quickly.
[00:11:45] Talking through emotions wasn't the norm. I know for me, not having a space to really look at the mistakes I was making and being in an environment that leaned heavily on a punishment, I didn't really learn much about self-reflection until much later in life. And that would've really served me as a growing adolescent.
[00:12:05] Definitely to have space to self-reflect and consider the choices I was making. So this chapter begins with a section titled. Be excited about mistakes. And another one that says, be a cheerleader during tough times. Mistakes are how we learn, right? Especially when parents keep their emotional attachment out of the picture.
[00:12:28] And to me, this is really where the internal compass begins to develop Self-reflection and critical thinking helps to create the internal guidance system. That we all will continue to use throughout our life. Adolescence is the beginning of its development, and I think it's really important to point out to the reader or you listener, that what is being encouraged in this chapter, in this section is to think about misbehavior differently.
[00:12:56] We're literally going to call misbehavior mistakes, mistaken decisions, mistaken choices. Changing the word misbehavior to mistakes can fundamentally transform how a parent reacts in the moment and helps them to stay grounded, calm, and solution focused. So how do we do it? Why does it matter? Again, misbehavior sounds intentional, defiant, and disrespectful, right?
[00:13:24] It triggers a threat response. In the parent and can often lead to anger or power struggles. Hello. Definitely lived inside of those. When we use the phrase mistake, the term mistake, we're implying learning and growth and human imperfection, which helps us respond. With curiosity instead of control and judgment.
[00:13:47] So instead of, man, my kid sure is testing me, you get to think, okay man, my kid is still learning which they are, which they are. And it keeps the parent focused on solutions. So misbehavior puts the spotlight on what went wrong and often leads to punishment or blame mistake. When we're looking at mistakes, we shift our focus to what can be learned from this, what can be done differently next time.
[00:14:13] Then it also strengthens connection. It models emotional regulation. And in practice we get to shift from our child is being disrespectful. He gets to learn a lesson, or he needs to learn a lesson into, my child has made a mistake and how he handled that frustration. Let's teach a better way. Right? So it really matters, this small shift in language from misbehavior to mistakes.
[00:14:49] I love it. I love it. I love the tools that are talked about in this chapter Two, curiosity, which you've heard me talk about at length on this podcast. Curiosity helps our teens explore the consequences and the fallout of their choices. Curiosity helps them consider the broader picture of the decisions they are making.
[00:15:09] They're learning to think for themselves. Right. That's what we want. That's the end game. That's the goal. Curiosity is so much more effective than lecturing. And one thing I love to mention to parents is that curiosity isn't about the answers you're getting when you ask the questions, but instead, it's about the seeds you are planting, the seeds you are planting when you offer up some inquiry with your kiddo.
[00:15:39] Okay, so we want our kids to learn to be thoughtful and reflective and intentional, right? Isn't that what we want? I mean, that's what I want, so I'm gonna assume it's what you want to. If that's what we want, then we get to prompt them into practicing thoughtfulness, reflection, and intentionality, right?
[00:15:58] Curiosity. That's where it happens. The other big tool mentioned in this chapter is making amends. We call it making things right. This is taking ownership and personal responsibility for your actions. Yes, mistakes happen. Mistakes are gonna happen. Mistakes are opportunities to learn, and mistakes are also opportunities to take personal responsibility When someone or some thing has been hurt or damaged, this was super useful for me to learn this process.
[00:16:28] This was not necessarily modeled. And would've been a game changer had it been as I was growing up. So the first step is to recognize that you've made a mistake and take responsibility. So recognizing you've made a mistake sounds like, oof. You know, I really got heated and said some things I'm not so proud of to my kiddo, right?
[00:16:51] That's an internal process. And then we get to take responsibility. We get to speak that, hey, I realize. I made a mistake. I did not stay regulated. My emotions got the better of me, and I said some things that were really hurtful to you, we get to then reconcile. We get to say, I am really sorry that I showed up that way.
[00:17:12] I. And then we get to resolve the problem, which might sound like me saying, well, here's what I'm gonna do the next time I feel flooded by emotion so that I'm not hurtful. Or if it was an exchange about, I don't know, curfew or doing the dishes or whatever, this might be the step where we say, can we come up with a plan or an agreement around curfew?
[00:17:32] Can we revisit the expectations around getting the dishes done so that we have. A solution that works for both of us, right? Our teens get to see us being human, and when we make amends and take personal accountability for our mistakes, that's what they get to see, right? And we make loads of mistakes, so there's lots of opportunity to model.
[00:17:55] And when we model it, we're increasing the likelihood that our teens make things right when they make mistakes. And it's so good. It's so good.
[00:18:07] Chapter five moves into how we motivate teens. And isn't this the big question? How do we motivate our teenagers? So again, we're gonna compare how many of us were raised by our boomer parents and feel the contrast with what we're doing when we're working to be a positive discipline parent. So motivation, how we were motivated.
[00:18:33] Again, I'm taking some liberties and making some broad strokes here. So listen for what lands for you. So our parents really came with this idea of do it or else consequences like punishment, guilt, or withdrawal of privileges were used to push the behavior that they wanted to see. Right? And now here we are.
[00:18:52] Positive discipline approach. We're saying things like, Hey, let's figure this out together. We're working to encourage problem solving and accountability with support, right? Our parents used external rewards and punishment, like, you know, grades, chores, and behaviors we're often tied to getting things or losing things, right?
[00:19:11] As positive discipline. Parents we're working on intrinsic motivation, so focusing on internal values, natural consequences, and self-reflection. Yeah, there was fear-based pressure with our parents. We use encouragement over fear, right? Our parents might have said, you'll never succeed if you don't do this thing, or you're wasting your potential.
[00:19:33] We're working on saying things like, I see how hard you're working. What do you think would help you? Next time? Literally had this conversation with my son about his grades in college. Our parents really leaned into control through authority, so they made the rules and we were expected to follow in positive discipline.
[00:19:51] Households we're working on collaboration and respect, right? Teens are included in setting expectations and consequences. Our parents may have used shame and guilt as tools. Again, we're using mistakes as learning opportunities. Our parents offered approval when we achieved, and we as positive discipline parents are really working towards unconditional support.
[00:20:15] I. Seeing our teens as worthy and loved regardless of their performance. And then again, many of us were raised in households where there was little room for autonomy. In the positive discipline household, we're really working to create autonomy with guidance. So we are giving our kids space to make decisions with support as needed.
[00:20:36] It's noted at the start of this chapter that most of the time when parents are asking how to motivate their teen, what they really wanna know is, how do we get my kid to do what I want them to do? Yes, I get it. I know. And we get to shift. We get to shift. We get to remember that motivation is really all about encouragement.
[00:20:55] Our teens do better when they feel better, and I would also add respect. A teen who feels encouraged and respected is gonna show up more easygoing and willing to go along with your program even when it's clearly your program. When the environment values their opinion and their experiences as real and valid for them.
[00:21:16] And holds them in their best life. When the environment communicates clear boundaries and expectations, teens tend to show up pretty well. So here's some of the tools that are mentioned in the chapter. I. One is compliments. Compliments and appreciation. Seeing our kids in their light using humor. I love this.
[00:21:37] One of my anchor words that I'm walking with this year that you've heard me talk about is levity. Lighten up humor really helps with this. We get to make deals. You can make deals with your kiddos. Absolutely. Absolutely. Making deals. Is a way of potentially motivating our kiddos and getting them involved.
[00:21:57] So this chapter really dives into co-creating agreements and listening to what they need and creating win-wins and remembering again that mistakes are opportunities to learn. So even when we co-create agreements, I'd say most of us who have co-created agreements with our teenagers. You know, have that moment of like, oh shoot, this isn't working.
[00:22:21] And so keeping in mind that agreements are meant to be tweaked, revisited, revamped, right? You wanna move in the direction of creating a system that is useful for both you and your teen. And you can check out my podcast episodes that highlight agreement. It's one of my favorite parenting tools. So just search for agreements in the search bar on my website, and you can see some shows that I've done that are focused directly on making agreements.
[00:22:50] Okay. So yeah, how do we motivate our teens? We collaborate with them. We include them. That's huge. Being in relationship with some, I mean, think about the people that you go above and beyond for who are they? Who are the people that you love to go above and beyond for? Are they people that. Treat you kind of shitty.
[00:23:09] Are they people that judge you or criticize you or aren't appreciative of you? No. That's not who. You go above and beyond for you go above and beyond for the people who you feel valued by, right? Who you feel appreciated by. People that you feel like, yeah, they see me, they get me. And so why not create an environment that produces that for your teenagers?
[00:23:32] That's gonna get you a lot further. Then carrots and sticks. Even though carrots and sticks might be useful in the short term. Just remember they have a shelf life, right? They have a shelf life. And we're going for long term parenting here. Who do we want our kids to be and what do we want our relationship to be like once they don't have to hang out with us?
[00:23:54] Right? Keeping that in mind.
[00:23:59] And then finally, chapter six. Right. Chapter six is called Does Your Teenager Hear Anything You Say? Such an important chapter, and again, again I wanna highlight, we're conditioned by our own experiences, so we may have some things to learn and grow as we work to show up as positive discipline parents for our kids.
[00:24:22] This chapter is really about communication and emotional intelligence. We were raised by a generation of parents that often was top down, limited and focused on control or correction. That's what the communication sounded like. Top down, limited communication focused on controller correction. I would also add one-sided emotional attunement.
[00:24:47] Was not a thing. It wasn't the norm. An open dialogue was rare in many households. I know for me, if there was room for me to give my opinion, it often felt like mocked and dismissed. And there was definitely one right way to think about things, and that was my parents' way. So oftentimes communication when we were growing up looked really authoritarian.
[00:25:13] And one way, there was a lot of, because I said so little room for negotiation, there was low emotional expression, right? Vulnerability wasn't modeled when we were growing up, right? And our parents may have even seen emotional openness as weakness or indulgent, or as was told to me, a crutch. Feelings weren't discussed.
[00:25:36] If your kiddo expressed sadness or anger or fear, the response was often, like I said, dismissive or minimizing correction over connection. Lots of focus on behavior and not the underlying needs. Respect equaled obedience, right? Questioning, negotiating, pushing back was often seen as disrespectful. Kids weren't encouraged to challenge or question adult decisions.
[00:26:00] Right. Respect was defined by how, how well you followed the rules and the power imbalance was intentional. Maintaining control was seen as part of being a good parent. You know, that whole conversation of are you their friend or are you their parent? Right. Our, our parents were much, you know, I'm not your friend, I'm your parent.
[00:26:22] Whereas we're really looking for a, I'm really looking for a balance. I think we can be both, right? And then of course, taboo topics were off limits. Sex, emotions, mental health, personal struggles, drugs, risky behavior, we're often avoided or discussed with discomfort. We don't talk about that or don't do it.
[00:26:40] Here's the bottom line. Just don't do it. Right Compared to what we're trying to do with positive discipline. Which is what we're gonna talk about in this chapter.
[00:27:00] Positive disciplines. You know, we like to say things like, man, it sounds like something's going on. Let's talk about what's making you feel this way. Let's talk about what's dysregulating you. You know, this kind of communication that we received from our parents, right? While often, of course well-intentioned, they thought they were doing the right thing, raising resilient kids, but it left many of us feeling unheard, misunderstood, emotionally unsupported, and even though we don't wanna leave our kids feeling the way we may have felt, the modeling was really strong.
[00:27:36] So. I'm gonna tell you straight from the book something that was reported by teenagers. Advice for parents when it came. Two, communication and what they want. So let me just find the page. Page 85, teen's advice to Parents on how to improve communication. Don't lecture. Make it short and sweet. Don't talk down to us, listen to us.
[00:28:02] Don't talk over us. Don't repeat yourself. If we have the guts to tell you what we did wrong, don't be mad and don't overreact. Don't pry or give us the third degree. Don't yell from a different room and expect us to come running. Don't try to make us feel guilty by saying things like, I did it because you couldn't find the time.
[00:28:22] Don't make promises you can't keep. Don't compare us with siblings or friends. Don't talk to our friends about us. I love this. I love that this is feedback. We get feedback from our kiddos all the time. I had client calls this week where the parents were sharing what their kiddos shared with them about how they feel with them, and the parents were really dismissive of that.
[00:28:48] This is information, this is feedback. This is something to do something with. Right? Take it in and consider. Okay. Is this my intention to make my kiddo feel this way? And if not, what can I do differently? What can I do differently so that they do feel supported and encouraged by me? And I love that there is time taken in this book, again, to keep bringing up curiosity.
[00:29:14] And one of the things that this chapter talks about is one of my back pocket favorite responses when we don't know what to say right in the book. They talk about the phrase, is there anything else? Right. What I like to talk about is, tell me more about that. Tell me more about that. We're so quick to launch into our opinion or what we think our kids should do, and lots of times we're missing the key issue.
[00:29:40] It's useful to gather as much information as possible so we can. Understand better what our teens are going through and what has happened and what they need, and lots of times what they need most is simply to be seen and listened to, seen and listened to and appreciated. Right? This chapter also encourages parents to develop a feeling words vocabulary.
[00:30:07] To me, this is an invitation to authenticity and transparency, which I realize are superpowers of mine. And not everybody is comfortable in that authentic, transparent space, but I'm here to say it's gonna make a difference in the relationship with your teenager. Talk about what you're feeling. This might be a learning curve for you.
[00:30:27] Emotional intelligence might not have been modeled and vulnerability might have been messaged as being weak and unsafe. Do your work around this. Work with a therapist. Figure it out for no other reason than for the sake of your kids. And their optimal development. Right, but also do it for you. Life is so much fuller and richer when we learn and develop the skills we need to wade through the surface level bullshit of life.
[00:30:57] And get to what is real and to connect with others from that place. It's so deep. It deepens all of our relationships. So I encourage you do your work around emotional intelligence. So yeah, so then the chapter again moves into more conversations around feelings, including a small section about depression.
[00:31:18] Honestly, this section to me, does feel a little bit judgmental, and maybe it's because of my own experience of navigating. Mental health with my child. So this section is called the Hairball of Depression, and it reflects on how the emotional experiences our teens are having can get tangled up into a web that is really hard to make sense of.
[00:31:43] One of the things that the authors highlight is that we can try to separate out the feelings that our teens are having, identify those feelings so that we can help them to discover. There are discouragement behind the feelings. Right. And then move through that to work on encouragement that can lead to some improvement.
[00:32:04] Yes, absolutely. Our kids get down, our kids get nervous. There is, you know, depression and anxiety on the continuum that fits inside of what is normal. What is figureoutable and there's outliers, right? Mental health is really in the spotlight right now. Covid, I know it was five years ago now, which is so weird.
[00:32:27] COVID, the rise in dependence and the use of social media of adolescents. These are things that have shown up in our culture since this book was published that are making a dramatic impact on our teens and as a parent, like I said, as a parent with a kiddo that did and does still struggle with diagnosed depression and moved through debilitating anxiety.
[00:32:50] I am a fan of meds and therapy. I saw the combination of both medication and working with a licensed mental health professional be useful for my child. Is that right for your child? You get to decide that, but I do think it is a both and of how we're showing up and our willingness to be vulnerable, our willingness to dig into the.
[00:33:15] You know, emotional communication coupled with working with a mental health professional that is most supportive of our teens, that are really in the struggle of mental health, right? So I just wanna say that about that section and the chapter goes on to drill down into the language of a emotional communication.
[00:33:34] So it really highlights honesty. I love that. Plus the, I feel and you feel statements. I feel blank because blank, and I wish blank. Right. You feel blank because of blank and you wish blank. It's hard work. It's hard work and it feels clunky and scripted, but the more you embrace the spirit, I. Of emotional communication.
[00:34:01] The spirit of what is shared in this chapter and all the proceeding chapters, the deeper the communication you can have with your teenager and when you remember to check your assumptions and judgments at the door, when you listen to understand them and their experiences, the more seen and accepted they feel.
[00:34:21] And again, this is where the softening and the opening shows up. This is where ease and safety is generated in the shared space, increasing the likelihood that our teens not only let us in. Also consider our point of view and perspective as they learn to move through the experiences of their world.
[00:34:49] Woo. I feel fired up and feisty. I'm stoked to be going through this book with you to be breaking down these chapters. I especially love taking the perspective out of what we may have experienced as a teen and highlighting how that might be getting in the way of what we wanna create with our kids.
[00:35:05] Because we pick books up all the time, right? We pick up parent, or I do pick up parenting books all the time, or I listen to a podcast and I get really jazzed about the content, and then I go into the practice, I go to integrate it. And that's when I bump up against my conditioning. So I think we get to talk about that and we're gonna keep talking about it.
[00:35:25] I feel so grateful to be a part of a generation of parents who are interrupters and working to do things differently for their kids. Go us. I love living this life. With the lens of growth and development, we all continue to get to work to do better for ourselves and for others. Thank you for walking next to me in this work, and thank you to Jane Nelson and Lynn Lot for this book.
[00:35:51] To remind you we're moving through positive discipline for teens. Over the next few weeks here on the podcast last week, we covered chapters one through three. This week we're covering four through six. Next week will be seven through nine. Get a copy positive discipline for teenagers. Get a copy and read along with us.
[00:36:08] It is powerful learning when we do it together. And don't forget, if there's anything you heard today that you wanna get deeper into with me, I am a coach. You can connect with me for a free 15 minute call at besproutable.com/explore. I'd be happy to meet with you and see what you need. Alright, that's it.
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