Eps 480: The power of examining the beliefs we hold about our teens and tweens

Episode 480

This week we are going deep into examining the beliefs we hold about our kids and how they might actually be what is getting in the way and creating the suffering we are experiencing. I know, seems like an easy fix, right? We may not be able to control our kids (truly, we can’t) but what we BELIEVE about them is for sure a part of our influence AND for SURE impacts how we EXPERIENCE them. Listen in and let me know what you think.

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Takeaways from the show

  • The value of examining the beliefs behind OUR (parents) behavior
  • We get to be curious about where our behavior is coming from
  • This is where conscious parenting and Positive Discipline connect
  • Relationships are about connection, about seeing and being seen by each other
  • How we discover our beliefs
  • How our beliefs influence how our teens/tweens interact with us
  • “Kids do better when they feel better.” Jane Nelsen
  • Beliefs that encourage parents AND teens
  • Interrupting our internal dialogue with something new
  • YOU get to practice!

Today Joyful Courage is about being willing to be honest with myself about the beliefs I am holding about the people I love. It might not feel good to recognize where I am coming from, AND it matters to take a look and be willing to hold the in a more encouraging light.


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Casey O'Roarty

Casey O'Roarty 00:05
Hello, Welcome back. Welcome to the joyful courage podcast, a place for inspiration and transformation as we work to keep it together. While parenting our tweens and teens. This is real work people. And when we can focus on our own growth and nurturing the connection with our kids, we can move through the turbulence in a way that allows for relationships to remain intact. My name is Casey already, I am your fearless host. I'm a positive discipline trainer, space holder coach and the adolescent lead. It's browseable. Also mama to a 20 year old daughter and a 17 year old son I am walking right beside you on the path of raising our kids with positive discipline and conscious parenting. This show is meant to be a resource to you and I work really hard to keep it really real, transparent and authentic so that you feel seen and supported. Today is a solo show and I'm confident that what I share will be useful to you. Please don't forget sharing truly is caring. If you love today's show, please please pass the link around snap a screenshot posted on your socials or texted to your friends. Together we can make an even bigger impact on families around the globe. If you're feeling extra special, you can rate and review us over in Apple podcasts. I'm so glad that you're here. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Enjoy the show. Hi, so good to be with you again. Yay. Yeah. Hi, friends. It's another Thursday show another solo show. You and me. Welcome back. Thank you for tuning in. I appreciate you. And I appreciate that you listen and find value here in our little space that we share. Welcome, welcome. Welcome. Okay, new week. So, this last Monday, I put out a show with Cindy Palmer, what did you think about that? I love her, she is my friend. I love the work that she does. I think it's so important for helpers like her to be out there supporting our kids that are transitioning from high school into college, especially those neurodiverse kids, we have such a good time we meet and have breakfast every few months and just geek out about what we get to do for work. And so it was really special to have her here on the podcast, and share her wisdom with all of you. And you know, as happens, there were parts of that conversation that I wanted to tug on here in the solo show. There's always themes that come up in interviews that weave into interactions I have online that also show up in the membership space and with clients. themes that I find myself talking a lot about, like it's exciting then to get to sit here with you and the mic and geek out on it and talk about it. So the topic for today is showing up in lots of places and conversations. And it's also showing up in my own life and my own practice of relating to the people that I love. And the topic is beliefs. Yeah, do you spend a lot of time thinking about your beliefs, what you believe to be true? We've talked a lot on this podcast. And in my work, we talk a lot about the beliefs behind our kids behavior or teens and tweens behavior. But what about the beliefs behind our behavior, our parenting, and how we're showing up for our teens and tweens? Do you spend any time there. Those of you that are listening and are like beliefs behind behavior, I don't know what she's talking about. I have a whole podcast series that digs into beliefs buying behavior. It's a concept and framework created by Alfred Adler that we talk a lot about in positive discipline. So check the show notes, and you'll see a link on Spotify that is a contained playlist of those shows. And really, the context is the behavior is motivated by a sense of belonging connection, as well as significance, meaning or responsibility. So when we're trying to navigate what's going on with our kids, right, we can use this framework and think about what's happening behind the behavior as far as what they believe to be true about connection and about significance. Right. And and that's Adlerian theory. That's what positive discipline is based on. And, you know, in the teen years, there's this added layer of brain development, right? There's the novelty seeking, there's the social engagement. There is you know, that emotional spark and I'm bringing In this op from Dan Siegel's work and brainstorm, he talks about the essence of adolescence, emotional spark, social engagement, novelty seeking creative exploration, right? All of this is really potent and alive during this adolescent period. Plus, they're moving through the world through their developing lens, considering how do I fit? Is the world safe? Is the world unsafe? What do I need to do? Who do I need to be to feel this sense of belonging and significance? And what is my sense of belonging and significance? So then they're making decisions based on that, right? I talked about the iceberg, right? And that's not just mine, positive discipline, we love talking about the iceberg. A lot of people talk about the iceberg. And there's a few shows here on the pod that are specific about the iceberg Episode 129, and 177, but also, so many others, what's happening under the surface of behavior, right? Again, we've talked about this a lot. When we're considering our kids behavior, right? We're always referencing the iceberg. And I'm always encouraging you to discover what's going on down there. Because that is where the true issues the true problem exists. That's where we can find and interact and engage and shift what we're seeing at the tip of the iceberg. The behavior, the struggle, right, the behaviors we see are a manifestation of how our teens and tweens are making sense of the world around them. And so supporting them and making sense of the world from a different angle, right with a different, more expanded and encouraged and empowered lens really matters. And that work happens under the surface. So I mean, I have a ton of podcasts. That's kind of the theme of everything. There's a ton about that here on the podcast. So today, we're going to shift our focus, and find out what might be valuable about shifting our focus towards ourselves here, and getting curious about our response to what's happening with our kids. Right, getting curious about what's underneath our iceberg, what's going on our surface. Right. And, you know, one reason that this would be valuable is our life experience. It's bigger than being a mom or being a dad or being a partner. We're human beings, right. And we're human beings having an emotional experience as we move through life, and the ebbs and the folds in the unfolding and so much comes up. Inside of all the relating and experiencing that we're doing right, lots of things come up the relationships in our lives, and the meaning we give to the interactions and experiences we have, over time form our beliefs, which then guide our responses, right? We are human beings, having an emotional experience as we move through life, just like our kids. Just because we're adults, doesn't mean we stop growing and developing and feeding into beliefs, right.

Casey O'Roarty 08:20
We can move through this life on autopilot and not be curious about the why we do the things we do and we might be fine, right? We might be fine. That might be enough for you. I'm guessing not if you listen to this podcast, the invitation I'm making today, and every day really, is to be ever more self aware and conscious around how you're showing up in the world. Right? When I consider the conscious part of conscious parenting, and I 1,000% think that positive discipline, I think of it as being under this umbrella of conscious parenting. To me, that means self awareness, it means inquiry, it means curiosity. It means a willingness to understand ourselves better, to understand the systems that we exist inside of better to understand the societal norms and the things that are happening in the water that we're swimming in better so that we can have a better understanding of why we do the things we do. Right? So we can have a clearer picture. And from that place, make more informed choices, right? Because the better we understand ourselves, I think, the less suffering we ultimately create for ourselves, and I'll talk more about that later. The other value that I think exists in taking a look at our beliefs is for the people that we love, when we're willing to look inward at the belief Use that are driving our behaviors and our responses, it starts to shift the experience other people have of us, right? When we know why we are reacting the way we do with our kids or partners, our friends, our colleagues, drivers who are on the road, we get to be at a choice point, right, we get to really consider what actually is my truth here, we get to pull back and allow others to be in their experience, we get to be ever more conscious again about the message we're sending through our words and actions. relationship, as you've heard me say a million times, relationships are about connection. They are about seeing and being seen by each other things, especially with our growing adolescents, they things get really messy when connection gets shaky. And one or both of us starts to feel misunderstood, judged, criticized, and adolescence is such a place for this, it's so potent, right? The value of looking at our beliefs is that we can clear out the murkiness, we can pull back the curtain and keep it real, right, we can keep it real with ourselves. And with all the people that we love. I had a long conversation with my sister last week, shout out to Jamie, I love you. We caught up on all the things in life that are up and alive for us both and there was plenty. And when I texted her the next day to tell her how grateful I am, to have her in my life. And for her ability to hold space for me, she responded with I love you, it's nice to be able to keep it real. You're the master of that, Casey. And it was such a huge compliment. There are things that we all do that are kind of just a part of our unconscious competence. And that's mine, right? Like, I don't know how else to be, but real. And that's what I'm here for. And that's what I really encourage all of you to do. Keep it real, keep it transparent. Catch yourself beating around the bush and tell it straight, right? Tell it straight and be curious. Even there. Where is your telling it straight coming from? Again, we're going to dig into the beliefs. So here we go. How do we discover our beliefs, right? It may seem simple, and straightforward to you, great. But I encourage you to keep digging deeper into this work. Because beliefs are sneaky. They may not be hanging out at the surface, or what you find at the surface might not be the totality of what is truly driving your behavior. Or you might think you have certain beliefs. But when you put it up against how you're responding to life, or your teens, or your partner, is their alignment. So I shared a story last week, in my email, I send out a weekly email on Fridays, if you don't get it, you can sign up by going to be spreadable.com. I show up every Friday in your inbox with a recap of the podcasts that went live that week and a little bit of sharing and prompting and inviting. Right. Get in there. Keep up with what I'm creating for you. I also share all my offers there. So yeah, be spreadable.com scroll to the bottom and subscribe. So yeah, my newsletter, you know, I have a 21 year old. Right? And for those of you that have kids younger than 21 Yeah, you don't stop parenting, when they move out. There's still so much that you get to roll around in even when they're out of the house. And those of you that have kids over, you know, my oldest age, you know this to be true. And actually, she's doing awesome, and she's really rocking the adulting and she's 21 she's a baby adult. She missed an appointment, wasn't able to get a prescription she needed started feeling weird, of course texted me about it. And as soon as I got the story and heard what was going on with her. My initial response, I didn't say it out loud, but like everything in me was okay, I can just call the doctor I can get her an appointment. I can fix this for her. I was so uncomfortable. Right, the discomfort of her flailing around and not taking care of it the way I thought she should be taken care of. It was so much for me to hold that I immediately wanted to go into the vortex of let me just do this for you. Right worst case scenario thinking Wow. Last week that happened and I know you know what I'm talking about. It happens really quick, right? And then, you know, the good news for me and for her is I've been talking about these beliefs. I talked about it in my membership call on Wednesday last week. And, you know, it's top of mind, I talked about it in another podcast interview I did last week. And so I was like, okay, so what do I know and believe about my baby, adult daughter, I know that she's capable. I know that she wants to feel good. I know that she knows what she needs to do. And I know that she has the tools to do it. So rather than swooping in and responding from a place of Oh, clearly, you can't handle this. Let me handle it for you. Which of course, I wouldn't have said that out loud. But that was the belief that would have driven me into let me fix this. Right. Instead of doing that I said, Amen. So what is your plan for getting in and seeing the doctor? And guess what? She figured it out? Just good to go. You know, me and you people that have subscribed to this way of parenting, we sit inside of these ideas, these ideals, we believe them? Right? We believe in the idea of positive discipline and conscious parenting and positive parenting, we're into it. And then when things get hard, what are the actual beliefs that start to drive our behavior. And I hear from parents all the time in the Facebook group and my membership with my private clients, how difficult it is not to be in reaction to their kids, right, and sit inside of the fear. Like, I don't want them to make mistakes, like mistakes or opportunities to learn, yes, but then when they're making mistakes, it's like, Oh, my God, they're ruining their life. We start to worry about the future. And then we bring all of that energy, all of that worry, and fear. We bring all of that energy into our interaction with our kids. And we try and connect and solve problems. But the energy behind it is, I don't believe you're capable. Let me tell you what to do. I know better than you know. So just listen to me. These Mistakes are going to ruin your life. You can't handle this. You need to avoid hard experiences. And you're never getting it together. Like clearly, right? We don't say these things out loud to our kids, but energetically, our beliefs, the place that we're coming from with some of the ways that we respond to them. That is the energy that we're bringing. And is it any wonder that our kids, our teens, and tweens want to keep their door closed? They don't want to talk to us. They don't want to fill us in on what's going on in their life. I mean, come on, they feel this energy they feel our beliefs about them. And why would anyone want to engage with someone who time after time has made them feel less than worse? Incapable, right? None of us want to interact with those people. A classic quote

Casey O'Roarty 18:08
from Jane Nelson is kids do better when they feel better, right? It comes straight out of the OG positive discipline book. The whole quote is where do we ever get the crazy idea that in order for kids to do better, first, they need to feel worse, kids do better when they feel better? And when we think about that kids do better when they feel better. What does that mean? Well, I'll tell you what it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean, okay, so we just need to coddle them and get in the way of life unfolding for our kids, it doesn't mean that we do for them and swoop in and hold them small and incapable. It doesn't mean that we don't have expectations or accountability for them, it doesn't mean that we look for how to make life easy. That is not what kids do better, when they feel better means right.

Casey O'Roarty 19:06
Kids just like us feel better when they are encouraged, empowered, when they feel capable, and confident and courageous. And part of the path is for their parents to believe these things about them. So that they can believe these things about themselves. Right? So they can believe too. We get to try on some new beliefs. Truly, right and take them from the head to the heart. And these beliefs could sound like I trust the process of my child's life unfolding their mistakes or giving them opportunities to learn. My kids are capable. They can handle what they're going through. Life skills are developed through experience. Everything is going to work out even if I don't know how or what that looks like. Right that's a big One that last one, everything is going to work out. Even if I don't know how, or what that looks like, how would those beliefs influence the way you responded to your kiddo? Right? I mean, think about that. Think about your child right now, the one that's tough. If you have more than one, and there's the one kid that is sending you to the podcast, think about that kid. And bring them to mind, visualize them. Take a deep breath. And really, I want you to see this child in your mind's eye, if you are not driving, or you know, doing anything that you need your eyes open for, close your eyes for a second, see your child and listen to my words. And imagine that they are yours. Okay, this one, this kid out of mind, they are so capable of moving through what they're going through right now. They are learning so many important lessons through this experience. lessons I could never give them. I can't know the gift of this time of their life. But I know that gifts will be revealed. This one, this kiddo of mine, they're going to be okay. And they are offering me so much growth and expansion, I am open to learning from them. So keep breathing and sitting with that. What happens for you, when you decide to believe that your kiddo is going to be okay? What happens for you? What if you believe that and trust that? And yeah, I'm not saying that they aren't going to make mistakes? They're going to make a ton of mistakes? So did we, they're gonna have shitty relationships and experiences. So did we, they're probably going to have loads of regrets. So did we all the things, they will have to live through hard things? As did we? And this is what grows them and keeps their evolution going. Right? So check your beliefs, my friends, when you react to your child's? And you will, because we all do that. start checking in and asking yourself, what is the belief I'm holding? That is motivating me to respond this way? Right. And you might find some really interesting things sit with that question. What is the belief I'm holding? That's motivating me to respond this way. And don't take the first thought that comes up as your truth, peel back some layers, be ready to be honest with yourself. Right, be ready to recognize that there's plenty that's been passed down that is a part of the fabric of who we are, that we might not even realize, you know, and I've talked about this on the pod when Rohan dropped out of school, I didn't realize how deeply conditioned I was to connect school slash education with value as a human. Right, that was something that was passed on to me. And that made it really difficult, especially at the beginning to be with her side road. What felt like a side road, it really was just the non traditional pathway of education, I had to do a lot of work to get to the place that recognize Oh, this is the belief that is getting in the way of me being in acceptance around a new possibility for her and alternative possibility. Right. So you really have to peel back the layers. And you might be thinking, I know some of you out there, but I don't believe my kids are capable Casey, I don't believe my kid is capable. Right? You might have one that's really struggling. And maybe it's a middle schooler, maybe it's post high school, maybe it's a young adult. And you know, looking at the evidence, it might feel like holy cow. How will they ever make it? Right? I don't think they have the skills to make it happen. I hear you. And I've heard this, right. I've heard this from you. And so as your kiddo, maybe not in the exact language that you're using when you share it with me, but they are picking up on your energy, make no mistake, it is happening. This belief simply isn't useful. And that's what I'm here to say. If you want your teen or tween to continue to grow into capable, confident people, you have to believe that it's possible. You have to right so shifted up. internal dialogue might sound like oh geez, here we go. I gotta get in here. I gotta fix this. I gotta control this. I gotta interrupt this. Okay, wait Hold up. What if I put on this? I believe my kid is capable belief, like Casey said, how would I respond? If that was my belief? Right, start there, which, you know, we talked about this, I think last week, you know, anytime we are pivoting and how we're showing up, we've got it, slow it down, take that pause, look for that space, to show up differently. And that's where you say, okay, new belief, my kid is capable, they are capable, they are capable, right? You might need it say it, a lot of times they are capable. So if that's true, how do I want to respond to this particular challenge that's showing up. And you you know, with this practice, you might have some things to clean up. So check in with your kiddo. If you have been really critical. If you do believe like, Oh, God, I have been sending that message. Or you're not sure. If you've been sending that message, go to the source. Go to your kiddo. Say, Hey, listen to this podcast today. I'm really curious about your experience of me. Does it feel like I believe in you? Does it feel like I believe that you've got this that you're capable and listen to them? Right? Listen to them. And then own it, like, Yeah, I hear you. And I get that, and I'm sorry, that I've made you feel that way in the past. Right. So you make it right, and then you get to let them know, I am working on developing new beliefs. Because I do believe in you. I do believe you're capable, right. And so what I'm going to work on is aligning my actions and how I interact with you with that belief, right, and then follow through and practice, even when it's hard. Follow through and practice. And I'm going to tell you something, sweet, sweet listener of mine, I'm going to tell you something, because I think this is important for you to hear. I believe in you. I know that you are capable of being who your kids need you to be. Your parenting skills are developed and fine tuned in the interactions you're having with your tweens and teens, especially when it's hard. I trust the process. And I know that you're all going to be okay. listener, I believe that your mistakes are opportunities to learn to you get to be confident and capable to I see you. You've got this. You've got this, you're not alone. You're not traveling this path alone. All right. So come hang out with us. Come hang out with us in the Facebook group. Joyful courage for parents of teens, follow me on social media, join the newsletter, come be a part of the membership that's going to open up again in July, get on the waitlist for that you don't have to do this alone. There are so many other parents that are walking this path and working on these beliefs and believing in each other. Right and being the support that each one of them needs. So yeah, what do you think about that? That's what I got for you today. Here are your prompts. Here are some journal prompts, or just thoughtful prompts. Whatever you want to do with these prompts, I'm going to post them in the Facebook group as I do. First one always what are your takeaways? As you listen to this episode? What were those moments where you were like, Oh, I gotta pause that and write that down. What were your big takeaways? And take a moment or many when you really sit with your reaction to what is currently hard with your team right now? What are the beliefs that you're finding behind your response?

Casey O'Roarty 28:52
And third, prompt Howard trying on a more useful belief. inform how you respond in the future. Right? I can't wait to hear your thoughts about this. I'm really stoked about this topic. Again, don't forget to sign up for my newsletter by going to besproutable.com. Leave a review of the pod if you loved it on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen, take care of you, my friends, drink some water, take a walk. Go sit in nature. keep leaning into the practice. I see you and I'll be with you again soon. Have a beautiful day. Bye.

Casey O'Roarty 29:38
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